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What Regen can this counter.

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David Warner and Cole MacGrath have this ability called an Ionic Drain

What this does is drain you of all your Neuroelectricity including the neurons in your brain, others can explain this better.

What Regenerationn is needed to counter this? I'm inclined to say Low Mid, as Mid or High should be able to restart it.
 
Any regen above Mid will definitely counter it since they can already come back from having their body blown to bits, meaning that damage to their nervous system can be handled.

I question whether or not mid level regen can counter to it because as I said earlier:

PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
I can see it countering mid regen, but at the same time, I have doubts. If some dude can regrow his whole head after having it blown off/decapitated/whatever, then he's shown that he can regrow a brain, which would mean he must be able to restart his neurological functions, at least to an extent.
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But what I forgot to ask is, will the body even know how to regenerate after its nervous system has to force quit? It basically controls all of your bodily functions, even unconscious ones like breathing and heart rate. So if its just killed, would it be able to tell the body to regen?
 
The issue is, one could argue that at Mid characters are using the spare neurological functions in the spine to take over while the brain is being repaired. Know how when you touch a hot object and your hand will pull away before you feel it? Something akin to that, where the spine can perform neurological functions to prevent damage to the body, or in this case, keep the rest of the body alive while the brain repairs itself.

This doesn't work at High-Mid, because at that level one can regen from a limb or chunks, but Mid and lower obviously need some sort of neurological functions to keep the body going.
 
I mean, characters with low-mid could work around it seeing as many can regen being cut in half as most if not all of the nervous system has to go through the spine
 
That's not really how it works.

You can regenerate major organs being destroyed, but your brain can't function without it, and brain damage is Mid.
 
Like. A lightbulb that can regenerate if you destroy it, but this is like hitting an off switch
 
Yeah, not how it works.

Mid can regen from what is essentially large and important portions of the circuit that is their body being damaged, including things like the power source or cicuitry that equates to the brain.

They cannot regen from their body effectively being "turned off".

It's the difference between a computer fixing damage to its CPU/GPU and a computer just turning back on after being unplugged
 
That's the problem, everyone thinks the brain is more important than other organs (in fiction) while for example, destroy the heart and the brain becomes useless and damaged, destroy the lungs and the rest goes to heck, etc. etc. Almost no other organ can work without the need of other one.

Going by the light bulb example, the lights bulb can regen back and the switch is on but if the cabling is cut (the spine in this case) then nothing works.

Or by the inverse, the switch regens back but the bulb doesn't then it's useless.

I don't really know how to explain without going with a lot of detail, specially since I'm on the phone.

The thing is, if you can regen any organ then you can regen the brain and by default the case you presented. Problem is that it needs a CRT to change the page. Low-Mid can regen back this or going by actual standars then Mid is immune to this.
 
Yeah I don't think this really interacts with regen. No damage is really done, but there's just not a way for the body to properly function anymore.
 
"That's the problem, everyone thinks the brain is more important than other organs (in fiction) while for example, destroy the heart and the brain becomes useless and damaged, destroy the lungs and the rest goes to heck, etc. etc. Almost no other organ can work without the need of other one. "

You can have an artificial replacement for any organ except the brain, if the treatment is timely enough. Meanwhile, the brain basically is you. Everything else is in support of it.
 
The Wright Way said:
So, basically the same reason you can't regenerate from Death Manipulation?
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Well that depends on the level of Death Hax

Death Hax that stops your heart won't work.
 
KnightOfSunlight said:
It's the difference between a computer fixing damage to its CPU/GPU and a computer just turning back on after being unplugged
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This isn't like that, we aren't stuck entities that need an outside power source, we are literally walking batteries.

The thing is, you are comparing the software with the hardware in a system that needs an outsider power source.
 
Death hax that just stops your heart is more bio manip though

I think we let Godly regen come back from death stuff by default, so I guess that works here? Also just not being reliant on neuroelectricity/having a sufficiently different biology works
 
@Tony

Your heart and Brain example falls flat when you consider that people can still live even when their heart isn't working. As long as Brain waves are active, you're still alive

This literally rips said brain waves away.
 
I'd probably treat this the same way as life force drain stuff is with regards to regen, since this is basically the more scientifically correct version of that. Not interacting with regen below godly by default (since that one is the whole dethatched presence thing), but if people have regenned from something like that they still can.
 
if we let life force drain beat high I don't see why life force drain but science version wouldn't
 
I guess this makes sense? If someone was made completely out of bio-energy, he would be able to kill them right? By this logic, he'd be able to kill people with certain types of High regen I think.
 
Ehhhhhhhhhhh

I've always had a problem with treating life drain as beating High especially when atoms or ash aren't alive.
 
I mean, that's a fair take on its own. I think at High it probably is more character specific.
 
I'm inclined to say that it should beat any regen that cannot come back from brain based destruction....I think....this seems to be very specific and beyond my expertise so I'd get more staff in on this.
 
I guess Wright was right when he said Bio Leech was basically death manipulation but via science

Also, really interesting debate so far
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
I'm inclined to say that it should beat any regen that cannot come back from brain based destruction....I think....this seems to be very specific and beyond my expertise so I'd get more staff in on this.
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So basically what you're saying is Low Mid and Below?
 
Any regen that allows the user to recreate/regrow their brain should be able to "stand" this.
 
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