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Granjeeta's Tiers
So currently, the reason why Danchou doesn't have High 6-A key and whatnot is because the side stories, events, showdown, etc's placement in time is inconsistent, thus the keys won't work because Djeeta can be 4-A there, 5-B there and so on. And this, I would say, shouldn't be the case, or at least should be ignored.
Events that have vague time placement should be independent from the main story's scaling other than High 6-A from Ifrit and Tiamat, because of normal Primal scaling. This unless something happens in the event that makes them scale to other tiers, example being the entirety of What Makes the Sky Blue because of Archangels being superior basically every Primals, Thousand Reasons when Row 4 Class Captain fought against Ghandagoza, and Second Advent when Automagod Versatile grappled against Proto Bahamut.
This way we can have reliable scaling while not having to worry about the timeline and Danchou's tier. Danchou is High 6-A by default, but can be proven to be higher with reliable evidence.
Not like there's vague scaling that pull us back from making tiers either. Danchou's growth is pretty simple.
Base key is High 6-A. This is straightforward scaling from Tiamat with planetary weather control and Ifrit with surface wipe. Ifrit is basically just special quest at this point.
Chapter 40+ should be 5-B. This is the point when Captain started to show that he's 5-B with aiding awakened Lecia from stalemating Gandharva who even in Chapter 50+ with the crew's fight against Yggdrasil Malice and Rose Queen, didn't found them strong except for these two. This is also the point when he fought Fenrir and also got a payback against Yggdrasil Malice and also fought against Rose Queen.
What Makes the Sky Blue I key should be At least 5-B, likely 4-A. This is scaling from Sandalphon. I explain it below.
Post-Arcarum key should be 4-A. You know, scaling from Inchoate World.
So the Danchou's key should be:
High 6-A | 5-B | At least 5-B, likely 4-A | 4-A
Base | Chapter 40+ | What Makes the Sky Blue I | Arcarum
4-A Feats and Scaling
First of all, Evokers. Their feat is basically this. And the more I look at it, the more I think that this is 4-A. Just look, almost countless stars and nebula. Nebula alone is high-end 4-B, add countless stars to that is almost guaranteed 4-A. No, this isn't inconsistent, basically every Arcanas can create this.
Okay, for more complicated scaling, Archangels and characters like Cagliostro. In lore, Archangels are one of the first Primals ever made, but was too strong for Astrals to control, thus the later Primals are much more weaker than Archangels. Note this, weaker. One of the Primals out there is Inchoate World, one of the Primals made by Astrals and only was able to rebel after the war was settled down and Astrals are in hiding. By the lore and logic, Inchoate World should be inferior to Archangels, by the fact that Primals after Archangels are inferior to Archangels. Hell, Inchoate World stated it himself, he's never be comparable to the Astrals during Arcarum prologue, that compared to him, Astrals are perfect. And Archangels are stronger than Astrals out there.
This isn't just pure scaling from Arcarum either. Europa, who is comparable to Gabriel, has likely 4-A feat as well. She can create countless stars with Taurus Blight and her main schtick is to control stars. This should further cement 4-A scaling of Archangels.
There are other characters that are not Archangels that should get 4-A too. Avatar is obvious, comparable to Belial and all. Europa is stated to be directly comparable to Gabriel, Grimnir's test is taken directly after Raphael's. Cagliostro forced Astrals to run away when World said that he is not comparable to them. Danchou scales, obviously. So does the crew in either What Makes the Sky Blue or Paradise Lost, and completely scales in 000.
I suggest At least 5-B, likely 4-A for most people to be completely fair. There are 5-B guys that seems to be able to keep up with them anyway, casual it may be, like Ladiva to Cag. For the profiles we currently have, this scales to these people:
So currently, the reason why Danchou doesn't have High 6-A key and whatnot is because the side stories, events, showdown, etc's placement in time is inconsistent, thus the keys won't work because Djeeta can be 4-A there, 5-B there and so on. And this, I would say, shouldn't be the case, or at least should be ignored.
Events that have vague time placement should be independent from the main story's scaling other than High 6-A from Ifrit and Tiamat, because of normal Primal scaling. This unless something happens in the event that makes them scale to other tiers, example being the entirety of What Makes the Sky Blue because of Archangels being superior basically every Primals, Thousand Reasons when Row 4 Class Captain fought against Ghandagoza, and Second Advent when Automagod Versatile grappled against Proto Bahamut.
This way we can have reliable scaling while not having to worry about the timeline and Danchou's tier. Danchou is High 6-A by default, but can be proven to be higher with reliable evidence.
Not like there's vague scaling that pull us back from making tiers either. Danchou's growth is pretty simple.
Base key is High 6-A. This is straightforward scaling from Tiamat with planetary weather control and Ifrit with surface wipe. Ifrit is basically just special quest at this point.
Chapter 40+ should be 5-B. This is the point when Captain started to show that he's 5-B with aiding awakened Lecia from stalemating Gandharva who even in Chapter 50+ with the crew's fight against Yggdrasil Malice and Rose Queen, didn't found them strong except for these two. This is also the point when he fought Fenrir and also got a payback against Yggdrasil Malice and also fought against Rose Queen.
What Makes the Sky Blue I key should be At least 5-B, likely 4-A. This is scaling from Sandalphon. I explain it below.
Post-Arcarum key should be 4-A. You know, scaling from Inchoate World.
So the Danchou's key should be:
High 6-A | 5-B | At least 5-B, likely 4-A | 4-A
Base | Chapter 40+ | What Makes the Sky Blue I | Arcarum
4-A Feats and Scaling
First of all, Evokers. Their feat is basically this. And the more I look at it, the more I think that this is 4-A. Just look, almost countless stars and nebula. Nebula alone is high-end 4-B, add countless stars to that is almost guaranteed 4-A. No, this isn't inconsistent, basically every Arcanas can create this.
Okay, for more complicated scaling, Archangels and characters like Cagliostro. In lore, Archangels are one of the first Primals ever made, but was too strong for Astrals to control, thus the later Primals are much more weaker than Archangels. Note this, weaker. One of the Primals out there is Inchoate World, one of the Primals made by Astrals and only was able to rebel after the war was settled down and Astrals are in hiding. By the lore and logic, Inchoate World should be inferior to Archangels, by the fact that Primals after Archangels are inferior to Archangels. Hell, Inchoate World stated it himself, he's never be comparable to the Astrals during Arcarum prologue, that compared to him, Astrals are perfect. And Archangels are stronger than Astrals out there.
This isn't just pure scaling from Arcarum either. Europa, who is comparable to Gabriel, has likely 4-A feat as well. She can create countless stars with Taurus Blight and her main schtick is to control stars. This should further cement 4-A scaling of Archangels.
There are other characters that are not Archangels that should get 4-A too. Avatar is obvious, comparable to Belial and all. Europa is stated to be directly comparable to Gabriel, Grimnir's test is taken directly after Raphael's. Cagliostro forced Astrals to run away when World said that he is not comparable to them. Danchou scales, obviously. So does the crew in either What Makes the Sky Blue or Paradise Lost, and completely scales in 000.
I suggest At least 5-B, likely 4-A for most people to be completely fair. There are 5-B guys that seems to be able to keep up with them anyway, casual it may be, like Ladiva to Cag. For the profiles we currently have, this scales to these people:
- Cagliostro
- Avatar (Granblue Fantasy)
- Dark Angel Olivia (True Form)
- Captain (Granblue Fantasy) (Explained above)
- Nier (Granblue Fantasy)
- Astrals like Loki and Beel, possibly even Mikaboshi
- Archangels and most Fallen Angels
- Metatron, Europa and Grimnir
- Evokers
