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speed equalized fight until death
oblivion 1 lucifer 0
oblivion 1 lucifer 0
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oblivion vs lucifer morning star
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LUC stomp but don't know that he can kills Obli for sure.
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What kind of feats does Lucifer have, that put him above Oblivion?
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nothingDarkHunter89 said:
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explain howLemongifted101 said:
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How far into 1-A is oblivion?
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high end like near high cause he cant be killed and only tier-0 is above him cause a tier-0 is above nothingness thats how it worksEmperorDoom25 said:
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Ah... yes the classic 1-A battle that usually ends up as an AP stomp...
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yes but neither has one the AP to kill the otherThe Axiom of Virgo said:
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okay i start taking votes but you need to give why and i could count it
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so bump
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Didn't Chaos king literally eat 98% of the marvel multiverse? And he's supposed to be only a tiny part of Oblivion as well. I'd put my money on him. Lucifer never impressed me really for someone that is supposed to be so powerful.
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Not to mention that if he would appear in the multiverse in his true form, he'd destroy it. Which is much more than Lucifer.
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Yes though in that story the Marvel Multiverse was High 1-B, still means that High 1-B's like Chaos King are only aspects of Oblivion's being
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Oblivion is like one step above Baseline 1-A iirc so if Lucifer is above that then he stomps.
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I don't see how Lucifer is as powerful as people describe him to be.PsychoWarper said:
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I dont know Lucifers transcendence I just know Oblivion is a step above Baseline.
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How do we know that he's only above baseline?PsychoWarper said:
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Originally he was above baseline since characters like TLT were 1-A and Oblivion sees Marvel and all it's being as an illusion, now though Oblivion is the only 1-A in the verse
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okay i take your vote oblivion 1 lucifer 0DarkHunter89 said:
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lucifer aint above oblivion the only being that can kill oblivion is a tier 0 because only tier-0 is above nothingnessPsychoWarper said:
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so you vote for oblivion ?The Unknown Warrior1 said:
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I don't know, 1-A matches don't get added anyway
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did i miss something ? i need to know the reasons for thatThe Unknown Warrior1 said:
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1-A matches are banned
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They're usually either stomps or inconclusive so on here they decided to just not add them
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- Please note that although matches between 1-A characters are technically not forbidden, results from such matchups will not be added to the character profiles. Due to the unfathomably high gaps of power between characters within this category, and how hard it is to accurately compare levels of complexity between the cosmologies of different fictional works, these threads should not be discussed for anything beyond casual entertainment.
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uhh thats a weird rule with a weird reason but i respect that its just to know cause i saw many people saying lucifer solos oblivion ect ectEmperorDoom25 said:
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Lol, Lucifer gets a lot of bullshit and vague feats that aren't even feats, as they're more statements made by other beings about him. Even then, there are a lot of things on his page that are flat out wrong such as Luci being not able to die, being beyond Destiny and other things.Slenderblak said:
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Oblivion embodies a Baseline Outerversal Void, and no a tier 0 is not required to kill Oblivion any 1-A thats a few levels above Baseline one shots Oblivion.
Cosmological speaking TOAA is the 2nd weakest tier 0 and weaker then several 1-As thats why the tier is being revised.
Cosmological speaking TOAA is the 2nd weakest tier 0 and weaker then several 1-As thats why the tier is being revised.
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Might be. The Presence isn't tier 0 either. I still doubt that Lucifer wins.PsychoWarper said:
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I dont really know who wins as im not familiar with Lucifers transcendence.
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no. toaa isnt the weakest tier 0 and show me the proof that he is weaker than a 1-APsychoWarper said:
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Any 1-A from Cthulhu Mythos, Umineko no Naku Koro ni and Masadaverse all have massively higher cosmologies, like TOAA literally transcends a baseline 1-A and thats it.
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Masadaverse is shit, bcs characters in it are all baseline, bump.PsychoWarper said:
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Don't derail with baseless opinions no one cares about.
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keramukkkkkk noyannnnnnnnnn
- Oblivion's best current statement is being beyond a High 1B omniverse (within this wiki atleast), which would make him baseline, or even above baseline if you wanna go at that
But again, that's basically useless, since we know Limbo is 1A, The Monitor Sphere is infinitely bigger than it, destiny views it as fiction, Lucifer escaped the plan which is basically destiny himself, really doesn't get as simple as that (I have posted the scans about this in some CAS vs lucifer thread)
- Oblivion's best current statement is being beyond a High 1B omniverse (within this wiki atleast), which would make him baseline, or even above baseline if you wanna go at that
But again, that's basically useless, since we know Limbo is 1A, The Monitor Sphere is infinitely bigger than it, destiny views it as fiction, Lucifer escaped the plan which is basically destiny himself, really doesn't get as simple as that (I have posted the scans about this in some CAS vs lucifer thread)
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