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Buu Saga Goku

Base Thor

Use the high end of Thor's movement


Who wins this battle of gods? (despite Goku not being one yet)
 
Goku can outpace Thor in combat (although flight speed is in Thor's favor with his enchanted hammer). Goku is a skillful martial artist as well as Thor mastering in hand-to-hand combat as it says. Especially for the Thunder God having more battle experience due to being a god fighting in millenium, but how about Goku in comparison? Not sure if Goku's endurance is enough as a Super Saiyan 3 while fighting Thor, unless he needs time to gather energy to replenish. I wonder if Super Saiyan 2 is enough to keep on going, and could Goku fight Thor with his Nyoibo since Thor has his Mjolnir? Or would this fight be without weapons?
 
In terms of AP, i have no clue which is stronger between them. I kind of want to say Goku but only because i have a sort of feeling that he's stronger than Thor. That's all i can say for that.

In Speed and given that this is as they are, Goku beats him in that field. Thor's highest end speed level was only calc'd to put on the very low bounds of FTL+ (about 14c, to be exact). Goku by around the Buu Saga should be higher in the spectrum in this field.

For abilities? I'll try to get around that a little later...
 
Now that is a better fight than most Thor vs Goku fights. This is actually a tought one.

About AP, the calc puts Thor at a minimum of 2.7625e46 J, while I'm not sure how much stronger Buu saga Goku is compared to SPC, even assuming SS level SPC is at the extreme low end of SS level. Inconclusive

About speed, Thor was calc'd to be 14.3c, but the calc person stated that it is possibly a low end. Namek saga Base Goku is 1.07c, and I have no idea how much faster he becomes by Buu saga. Again, inconclusive, but I think this leans towards Goku

Their difference in battle experience bugs me. Thor has fought manners of beings from different planets for thousands of years, yet comics often portray him as just a bit better than Hulk's "smashing things with strength" tactic.

Ability-wise though, Thor is much better. Thor is much more versatile, and pre-Super Goku has no resistance to any kind of special abilities besides superpowered physical hits and energy blasts. So yeah, Thor wins in this aspect.

SS3 Goku however has the issue with stamina. The Buu Saga clearly shows that SS3 drains him massively. Thor wins in this aspect again.

Overall, I say this is an inconclusive fight, but with 6-7/10 chance Thor wins, with the advantage in abilities and stamina. Goku may be faster and (possibly) stronger, but once he is exhausted Thor can unload his abilities on him.
 
I go with goku

1 he faster

2 i think goku could use that hammer he got a good heart.

goku faster he got better range and he battle smarter
 
Goku has the speed advantage when it comes to combat, but Thor has the travel speed. Their APs are really close, but Thor is only "Likely Solar System" while Goku is "Solar System" maybe a bit higher than Thor. Goku's instant transmission may give Thor a hard time as well. This is a really tough fight to call. I'm giving it to Goku with high difficulty.
 
Byakushiki Setsura said:
Now that is a better fight than most Thor vs Goku fights. This is actually a tought one.

About AP, the calc puts Thor at a minimum of 2.7625e46 J, while I'm not sure how much stronger Buu saga Goku is compared to SPC, even assuming SS level SPC is at the extreme low end of SS level. Inconclusive

About speed, Thor was calc'd to be 14.3c, but the calc person stated that it is possibly a low end. Namek saga Base Goku is 1.07c, and I have no idea how much faster he becomes by Buu saga. Again, inconclusive, but I think this leans towards Goku

Their difference in battle experience bugs me. Thor has fought manners of beings from different planets for thousands of years, yet comics often portray him as just a bit better than Hulk's "smashing things with strength" tactic.

Ability-wise though, Thor is much better. Thor is much more versatile, and pre-Super Goku has no resistance to any kind of special abilities besides superpowered physical hits and energy blasts. So yeah, Thor wins in this aspect.

SS3 Goku however has the issue with stamina. The Buu Saga clearly shows that SS3 drains him massively. Thor wins in this aspect again.

Overall, I say this is an inconclusive fight, but with 6-7/10 chance Thor wins, with the advantage in abilities and stamina. Goku may be faster and (possibly) stronger, but once he is exhausted Thor can unload his abilities on him.
Basically this, i give my vote to thor as well
 
Goku has higher combat speed,is for sure ss level.Has IT,it's also good & expert fighter.

I give it to Goku
 
AnimeFanboy2916 said:
SunWukong1986 said:
That's right, Goku as a Super Saiyan 2 is stronger than Gohan from the Cell Games when he overpowered Cell's Solar Kamehameha.
So Goku wins due to higher AP?
Seems like it, but what does it mean for Thor being "likely Solar System" level?
 
Thor is far stronger, Cell is only accepted at baseline solar system level which is around 5.6e41j and Thor stands at 2.76e46j

Which makes Thor roughly 50,000 times stronger than Cell's absolute best.

Unless anyone can prove SSJ3 is several thousands of times stronger than Cell, Thor far outclasses this version of Goku.
 
So basically not only does Thor have the versatility advantage (abilities-wise), but is also several thousands of times stronger than Cell at his strongest and Goku at his strongest around this time? Aite. @Aguila
 
CrossverseCrisis said:
So basically not only does Thor have the versatility advantage (abilities-wise), but is also several thousands of times stronger than Cell at his strongest and Goku at his strongest around this time? Aite. @Aguila

Pretty much.
 
Absolute low-end of Solar System level starts at 2.24x1045 J though.

@Jucaslucas If my memory serves me right there is no DB character that can absorb energy attacks, Cell and Buu only absorb energy through absorbing people
 
Byakushiki Setsura said:
Absolute low-end of Solar System level starts at 2.24x1045 J though.
@Jucaslucas If my memory serves me right there is no DB character that can absorb energy attacks, Cell and Buu only absorb energy through absorbing people

Uh, yeah that's true, I screwed up when writing the exponent which would be e44

I remember baseline star system used to be 5.6e44j , but if that has changed then the difference isn't huge now.

The gap between SPCell's absolute best and Thor is only 12.33x times.

Though I'd still argue that Goku has the disadvantage in AP considering SSJ3 is only a 8x boost over the power of a SSJ1 and it's unlikely that Buu saga Goku is far above SPCell as one, specially considering Vegeta only states Goku surpassed the intial SSJ2 of Gohan after he became a SSJ2 himself.
 
Yeah that is correct, yes. We use to have around that level before we change to what Setsura said earlier. *Nods* @Aguila
 
Even if Goku is stronger in terms of brute force, Thor has way more abilities, way more versatility, and hax. Not to mention Goku's stamina issues in his stronger forms. Personally giving it to Thor.
 
But he'll just basically hold his breath long enough before he suffocates if he's in space, right? Saiyans may not have the same anatomy like Frieza's race can when breathing in the vacuum, but they are quite adabtable once they build themselves up bit by bit, don't they?
 
AguilaR101 said:
Byakushiki Setsura said:
Absolute low-end of Solar System level starts at 2.24x1045 J though.
@Jucaslucas If my memory serves me right there is no DB character that can absorb energy attacks, Cell and Buu only absorb energy through absorbing people
Uh, yeah that's true, I screwed up when writing the exponent which would be e44
I remember baseline star system used to be 5.6e44j , but if that has changed then the difference isn't huge now.

The gap between SPCell's absolute best and Thor is only 12.33x times.

Though I'd still argue that Goku has the disadvantage in AP considering SSJ3 is only a 8x boost over the power of a SSJ1 and it's unlikely that Buu saga Goku is far above SPCell as one, specially considering Vegeta only states Goku surpassed the intial SSJ2 of Gohan after he became a SSJ2 himself.
Except SSJ2 Gohan 50% power > SPC who is SS,and Goku SSJ2 > SSJ2 Gohan
 
I don't think Thor can use his energy absorbion here since what Goku uses is Ki which is more spiritual than actual energy
 
RadicalMrR said:
I don't think Thor can use his energy absorbion here since what Goku uses is Ki which is more spiritual than actual energy
It's treated like real energy. Even Androids (who aren't beings with a "spirit") can use it.

It's obviously linked to a spirital-related origin but why should that stop Thor from absorbing it. The characters constantly refer to it as energy (Òé¿ÒâìÒâ½Òé«Òâ╝, enerug─½) and everything.
 
Strmi said:
Except SSJ2 Gohan 50% power > SPC who is SS,and Goku SSJ2 > SSJ2 Gohan
SSJ2 Gohan is not twice as strong s SPCell, the kamehameha struggle isn't evidence for that either.

Being distracted by Vegeta's strongest charged up attack is what gave Gohan the advantage, if he was outright twice as strong he wouldn't have needed to find an opportunity to release everything in the first place.
 
I've gotta go with Thor. Better experience (that's a first being used against Goku) and his hax, esp. energy absorption and matter manipulation is going to be his saving grace.
 
I think Thor takes this one. He's got an combat experience advantage (in spite of him being portrayed as a bit better than Hulk), as well as a hax advantage in powers and abilities. However, it's going to be tough for him.
 
Vote count so far:

Thor - 5 (Sora'sOther, Promestein, The real cal howard, Fllflourine, AguilaR101)/ mostly hax and higher stamina

Goku - 4 (Anime444, AnimeFanboy2916, Strmi, RadicalMrR)/ mostly higher AP and speed

Stalemate - 3 (TheCompulsory, Byakushiki, Zensum)

Uncertain - 4 (SunWukong1986, CrossverseCrisis, AllanSaiyan, LoudCloud)

Odin's beard, this is a hard one.
 
I think I'll vote for Goku. He'll might have a chance against Thor, and didn't his profile say that he had resistance to electricity?
 
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