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Dante vs Geras

It seems that most of Geras' attacks that would be effective against enemies are things he does to himself or outside of combat.The only abilities that would potentially be a problem for Dante is EE,some Time abilities and maybe telekinesis but that's it really but Geras doesn't seem to use EE in canon or frequently, his time based abilities can only delay Dante and Dante can deal with telekinesis based on how Geras generally uses it.

I give this to Dante via eventually Sealing Geras
 
Schnee One said:
No. WHERE does he seal them to? Another universe? An alternate dimension?
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Sealing sends him into the Demon world and which forces him to not come back. BFR does the same but sends Geras' to his homeworld I believe
 
If sealing isn't allowed, I'm giving it to Geras because Dante will waste his energy and Geras has fought and battled others for thousands to millions of years. I think Geras wins via outlasting Dante in stamina.
 
Sealing is allowed and Dante has BFR as well.Also, I don't think outlasting Dante is as easy as you think since Dante has methods to replinish energy, has multiple ways to boost all of his stats, has Royal Guard which basically allows Dante to tank and reflect nearly all of Gera's attacks,has invulnurability and resurrection items, time slow and time stop etc.
 
Dienomite22 said:
Sealing is allowed and Dante has BFR as well.Also, I don't think outlasting Dante is as easy as you think since Dante has methods to replinish energy, has multiple ways to boost all of his stats, has Royal Guard which basically allows Dante to tank and reflect nearly all of Gera's attacks,has invulnurability and resurrection items, time slow and time stop etc.
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Not easy but not impossible. I'm pretty sure there is a limit to how much longer he can be in a invulnerable state or the items to heal or crap.

If anything, Geras can create sand clones and teleport to their locality to avoid being sealed? Or rewind his own personal time to avoid any slippary mistakes. Since this is DMC 1 Dante, what is preventing Geras from erasing Dante's existence or decontruct him? I doubt any time abilities Dante has would effect Geras since the bastard is essentially a living hourglass lol

It's either a win for Geras with extreme difficulty if he plays his cards right and smartly or a stalemate as Dante may run out of ideas to kill this dude in my opinion.
 
Dante's doesn't need items to heal and it's naturally boosted with DT which he doesn't have a time limit for and RoyalGuard also heals.His items are limited in number of uses (although by an unkown amount) and don't last that long but they do help here, especially Gold Orb which resurrects him if he were to die somehow.

Geras could try to dodge the Sealing or BFR if it's in character for him to run from gunfire or energy blasts but Dante would still have the speed advantage here thanks to DT meaning Geras would have a hard time dodging or reacting to it if he were to try.Dante can also create a perfect clone of himself to fight along side him which you could imagine would a problem for Geras.Geras not using deconstruct or EE in character is a big factor into why he doesn't use it against Dante, Geras will likely only resort to using them after he dies a bunch of times but Dante would just go for sealing if Geras resurrects just once.Unless Geras has proof of resisting time manipulation, he still gets affected by Dante's time manipulation.Either way Dante's time manipulation not working wouldn't change much.

Overall Geras' win condition is heavily reliant on out of character options that he doesn't use in combat until after he has resurrect many times and would need Dante to also act out of character in order for Geras to even maybe win while Dante's win condition is something simple and completely in character for him.
 
Dienomite22 said:
Dante's doesn't need items to heal and it's naturally boosted with DT which he doesn't have a time limit for and RoyalGuard also heals.His items are limited in number of uses (although by an unkown amount) and don't last that long but they do help here, especially Gold Orb which resurrects him if he were to die somehow.
Geras could try to dodge the Sealing or BFR if it's in character for him to run from gunfire or energy blasts but Dante would still have the speed advantage here thanks to DT meaning Geras would have a hard time dodging or reacting to it if he were to try.Dante can also create a perfect clone of himself to fight along side him which you could imagine would a problem for Geras.Geras not using deconstruct or EE in character is a big factor into why he doesn't use it against Dante, Geras will likely only resort to using them after he dies a bunch of times but Dante would just go for sealing if Geras resurrects just once.Unless Geras has proof of resisting time manipulation, he still gets affected by Dante's time manipulation.Either way Dante's time manipulation not working wouldn't change much.

Overall Geras' win condition is heavily reliant on out of character options that he doesn't use in combat until after he has resurrect many times and would need Dante to also act out of character in order for Geras to even maybe win while Dante's win condition is something simple and completely in character for him.
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Doesn't Geras have control over his own personal time to where he's able to move rapidly while going forward in time or reverse like his character select animation?

And I'm pretty sure he is immune to time manipulation as it was stated in MK 11 that he is a fixed singlarity in time. Like Raiden, he is an immortal and even though he is not a god, he is closer to one due to giving Raiden a challenge and matching his strength. Even Raiden and God Liu Kang don't abide to the rules of time.

Then perhaps tell the Admin of this debate to set the character conditions to make things fair.

The reason why he doesn't bother dodging bullets or energy blasts is because they pose no real threat to him. When you have Regenerationn or immortal, there is no need to even attempt at dodging or blocking attacks that have no real affect on you.

Regardless, I'm still sticking with either a difficult win for Geras or stalemate. If this is the current Dante, then I'll lean on Dante.
 
@Spawn888

Geras could have control over his own time but I don't that's confirmed and it doesn't mean his body's time manipulation can operate in time stop.Being a singularity in time doesn't make a person immune to time manipulation and it doesn't give you resistance either, it does give you time paradox immunity I believe but that wouldn't help with time stop or time manipulation.

I think this is as fair as it gets, otherwise it would be a stomp for either side.They both have win conditions as of right now.

That's a character flaw and falls under CIS which means it could be taken advantage of in this fight. (Like DMC3 Dante being generally cocky could be taken advantage of in a vs match up)
 
  • shrugs*
Meh, whatever. I still stick with Geras winning or stalemate.

I just don't see Dante pulling off an easy win, but hey...ya'll do you.

To the topic admin, place my vote in for Geras.
 
After the first five times of trying to kill him, Dante can only pull off a victory by sealing Geras. As much as I love Geras, he has no counter against sealing. Dante wins...sort of.

Both of them have no means of putting each other down. I was going to say tie, but since we are doing sealing...Dante wins.
 
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