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Hello guys, this is a small revision for the DMC3 cast which only involves Dante, Vergil and Arkham

First, the cutscenes, but the part that I need you guys to take a look is at 1:09:12

At that time, Arkham had stomped both Dante and Vergil and was about to receive the Force edge, covering the sky in a storm in the process. If you guys look close, while Lady is climbing the tower, you'll see that the storm covers the sky and the horizon even when we see at the top of Temen ni Gru, so it perfectly fits our standard storm calcs

Now yeah, Arkham needed prep time to do it, but at that moment he was capable of doing that and even after taking the Force Edge, which make shim even stronger, Dante can hold his own against him, and with Vergil they casually slapped him

About the storm, is a simple one that covers the horizon, so going by DMUA's Storm Page, it fall under Weak instability storms which are 2.40995597059316 Megatons, Small City level

Now yeah, like DMUA said, it could be something related to the seal being released, but in any way, it would scale to them

This is based on Paradox's accepted blog about the God Tier of the verse, where he wrote

Rather, the Temen-ni-Gru, and all other portals we see in the series, are actually portals that Sparda sealed after separating the Demon World and sealing it off, in order to prevent the remnants of Mundus's army and other rogue Demons to use the opportunity born out of the ingenuity and lack of knowledge of the human worshippers to travel between both worlds.

Recall the scan I linked from the DMC5 history video, about Arkham, where it states that unlocking Sparda's power through his sword would weaken the seal on the underworld? This ties directly with that. This is because Sparda split his power and placed it in three separate swords - Yamato, Rebellion, and the Force Edge, as revealed by DMC5. After Sparda separated the worlds and began sealing the Demon World, he also sealed the Temen-ni-Gru and hid the Force Edge on the other side of the sealed portal. The Force Edge ensures that the seal on the underworld remains active and powerful, and unlocking its power threatens its stability


Basically, The Force Edge keeps Temen-ni-gru's seal, when Arkham breaks the spell (With Lady's and Vergil' blood) and later takes the Force Edge, the tower rises completely and the storm is formed, so the Force Edge is, actually, superior to the tower, since it is what powers the seal that keeps it dormant, so it should scale to Blob Arkham, Post DT Dante and Vergil in any way

So my proposal is to change Dante's DMC3 key to:

> At least City Block level, likely higher (Even before unlocking his inner potential, Dante was capable of easily defeating Cerberus, who casually froze Temen-ni-gru's entrance). Small City level after awakening his Devil Trigger (Easily defeated Nevan by himself and later hold his own against Arkham, defeating him alongside Vergil)

Vergil should be Low 7-B right at the beggining and Arkham should be Low 7-B as Blob Arkham

So, what you guys think ?
 
I think we'd probably need a bit more of a specific calc for this situation, but otherwise it seems perfectly reasonable!
 
It would go under condensation or moderate in this case

That said wasn't it decided this storm was just a side effect of the ritual as a prep time feat
 
DMUA said:
It would go under condensation or moderate in this case

That said wasn't it decided this storm was just a side effect of the ritual as a prep time feat
Actually, in boths cases it scales to them, I didn't add to the OP the second option, but here it is:

It's based on Paradox's accepted blog about the God Tier of the verse, when he wrote

Rather, the Temen-ni-Gru, and all other portals we see in the series, are actually portals that Sparda sealed after separating the Demon World and sealing it off, in order to prevent the remnants of Mundus's army and other rogue Demons to use the opportunity born out of the ingenuity and lack of knowledge of the human worshippers to travel between both worlds.

Recall the scan I linked from the DMC5 history video, about Arkham, where it states that unlocking Sparda's power through his sword would weaken the seal on the underworld? This ties directly with that. This is because Sparda split his power and placed it in three separate swords - Yamato, Rebellion, and the Force Edge, as revealed by DMC5. After Sparda separated the worlds and began sealing the Demon World, he also sealed the Temen-ni-Gru and hid the Force Edge on the other side of the sealed portal. The Force Edge ensures that the seal on the underworld remains active and powerful, and unlocking its power threatens its stability


Basically, The Force Edge keeps Temen-ni-gru's seal, when Arkham breaks the spell (With Lady's and Vergil' blood) and later takes the Force Edge, the tower rises completely and the storm is formed, so the Force Edge is, actually, superior to the tower, since it is what powers the seal that keeps it dormant, so it should scale to Blob Arkham, Post DT Dante and Vergil in any way
 
Yeah, we need Dante's profile to be opened if this is fine.

Also, check out the speed revision thread. There's some major things going down in there.
 
Also, DMUA said that it's condensation, so it should be Small City level+.
 
Speaking of Wolf vs Dante, Sesshomaru vs Vergil is back on as well.
 
If they are 5 megatons, shouldn't be easier to scale them to Echidna? I mean, the bosses of DMC3 are the guardians/gatekeepers of an ancient tower sealed there by Sparda himself, probably because of their strength.

While the others are more like fodder random demons with the only exception being Berial but he lacks feats.
 
Tbh, I'm iffy on the assertion of Echidna being fodder, as we have no way to tell how she compares to the DMC3 cast. I'm more comfortable with scaling Dante and Vergil directly from Arkham.
 
I can see the logic behind the Teminigru's guardians being scalable to the bosses from 4, but I prefer scaling to the readily avalible evidence.
 
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