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Hello everyone, Yup, it's me. And before I get this underway I want to state that I'm only gonna be here for about two weeks and then I'm gone again. Only Ant knows my current situation. In this timeframe I'll be updating a few of the verses I know.
Tier 4
I'll try and keep these threads as short as possible. The God Tiers of Danny Phantom should go from At least Low 6-B to At least High 4-C. I made a thread months ago about ghosts getting non combat Pocket Reality Manipulation, Time Manipulation and Space Manipulation because they can create there own pocket dimensions which have there own space and time. This thread was accepted but I never added them to all the profiles.
Anyway, some of these realms contain stars. One of which is one that Princess Dorathea resides in which showed to have a sun and the one Sidney Poindexter resides in which has multiple stars. Here is an image of the later's realm.
As you can see there are multiple stars in the background. At first I was unsure if this would scale to anyone since we don't know how long it took them to make said realms but if I recal we don't assume it took them a long time unless stated which it isn't. Something I need to prove however is how would this scale directly to there AP since fiction treats creation feats differently at times.
Well Butch Hartmen stated that the ghosts homes/realms are each made up of there own ectoplasm energy. This is backed up in the show, the episode "Ultimate Enemy" which introduced the Boomerang which is stated to home in on a ghosts unique ecto signiture. The ghosts created these realms with there own energy and this is backed up in the episode when Danny first explorde the Ghost Zone called "Prisoners of Love" in which Danny opens one of the doors leading to a singal room that houses a single ghost boy who tells Danny to get out and when he closes the door Danny states that each one of these doors leads to a ghosts lair. Plus, in the episode "Reign Storm", Pariah Dark was stated by Ember to have destroyed there homes and at the end Danny states that the ghosts are off rebuilding their homes.
They are creating their realms using their own energy and in Danny Phantom, a ghosts energy contains there very essense and is maintained by them. This is shown in the episode "13" When Johnny 13 was sucked inside the Fenton Thermos his bike literaly vanished on screen or in the episode "Memory Blank" when Desiree was sucked into the Fenton Thermos all here creations vanished. This is the same with Undergrowth and Vortex, when the formers core body was destroyed all his plants died instantly meaning he was keeping them alive and the later's weather effects that contained his very will around the world vanished when sucked into the thermos.
Now while the Ghost Zone stablizes ectoplasm so they don't need to worry about fueling there creations with energy as long as it resides in the Ghost Zone but they still half to create the realm itself and since Pariah Dark destroyed god knows how many, we know the rebuilding prosess of these realms wasn't long since the next episodes after the ghosts are back fighting Danny.
Conclusion
Ghosts are able to create their own realms made from there own energy that contains there very essense and said process isn't stated to take a long time and actually seems quick.
Problems
There are nothing inconsistant about this upgrade. Dorathea and Poindexter didn't create the realms they live in. They simply just live there. It's unconfirmed which ghost created them but given Dorathea has a mother who doesn't let her do what she wants and Poindexter is getting bullied in the realm he resides in I think it's pretty obvious they didn't make them. So the argument that would assume this would make the low, mid or even top tiers scale is false.
Scaling
So who scales?
Pariah Dark: At least Large Star level (Far superior to any ghost including those capable of creating realms that contain multiple stars)
Ancient Ghost: At least Large Star level (Fought Pariah Dark and together they overpowered him)
Danny Phantom (Ecto-Skeleton): At least Large Star level (Fought Pariah Dark and put up a decent fight)
Jazz Fenton (Ecto-Skeleton): At least Large Star level (The Ecto-Skeleton allowed Danny to fight Pariah Dark)
Dan Phantom: Yup, even Dan is getting upgraded. At least Large Star level (Caused chaos throught the Ghost Zone which houses ghosts powerful enough to create realms that contain stars, The Obsevents stated the only way the future would be saved is for Clockwork to destroy Danny before he becomes Dan)
Note: The Observents are capable of seeing the future of the timeline although they can't see the twists and turns it could take if someone changed something. Regardless the standared future showed that Dan couldn't be stopped and he was traveling through the Ghost Zone causing mayham so to assume not a single ghost tried to destroy him is wrong.
Future Valerie and Future Fright Knight who I never made keys for yet scale to Dan since the former can survive Dan's attacks and harm him, and the later can harm the former.
Danny Phantom (Ghostly Wail): Up to At least Large Star level with the Ghostly Wail (Casued noticable harm to Dan)
Note: Danny can regulate the power of his ghostly wail as shown by Dan as well. They can put force behind it to send things flying or just leave it as a sound wave to mess with peoples hearing and what not. So no, just because weaker enemies survive the Ghostly Wail doesn't mean they scale. Dan literaly shot a Ghostly Wail at Sam and Tucker yet all the force only focused on a small portion of a building even tho earlier in the episode he was sending tanks and helicopters flying.
Edit: According to ShadowWarrior1999 creating a universe with multiple stars is 4-A so instead of High 4-C/Large Star level, the characters I've listed will be 4-A/Multi-Solar System level.
Well that's it. All thoughts are welcome.
Tier 4
I'll try and keep these threads as short as possible. The God Tiers of Danny Phantom should go from At least Low 6-B to At least High 4-C. I made a thread months ago about ghosts getting non combat Pocket Reality Manipulation, Time Manipulation and Space Manipulation because they can create there own pocket dimensions which have there own space and time. This thread was accepted but I never added them to all the profiles.
Anyway, some of these realms contain stars. One of which is one that Princess Dorathea resides in which showed to have a sun and the one Sidney Poindexter resides in which has multiple stars. Here is an image of the later's realm.
As you can see there are multiple stars in the background. At first I was unsure if this would scale to anyone since we don't know how long it took them to make said realms but if I recal we don't assume it took them a long time unless stated which it isn't. Something I need to prove however is how would this scale directly to there AP since fiction treats creation feats differently at times.
Well Butch Hartmen stated that the ghosts homes/realms are each made up of there own ectoplasm energy. This is backed up in the show, the episode "Ultimate Enemy" which introduced the Boomerang which is stated to home in on a ghosts unique ecto signiture. The ghosts created these realms with there own energy and this is backed up in the episode when Danny first explorde the Ghost Zone called "Prisoners of Love" in which Danny opens one of the doors leading to a singal room that houses a single ghost boy who tells Danny to get out and when he closes the door Danny states that each one of these doors leads to a ghosts lair. Plus, in the episode "Reign Storm", Pariah Dark was stated by Ember to have destroyed there homes and at the end Danny states that the ghosts are off rebuilding their homes.
They are creating their realms using their own energy and in Danny Phantom, a ghosts energy contains there very essense and is maintained by them. This is shown in the episode "13" When Johnny 13 was sucked inside the Fenton Thermos his bike literaly vanished on screen or in the episode "Memory Blank" when Desiree was sucked into the Fenton Thermos all here creations vanished. This is the same with Undergrowth and Vortex, when the formers core body was destroyed all his plants died instantly meaning he was keeping them alive and the later's weather effects that contained his very will around the world vanished when sucked into the thermos.
Now while the Ghost Zone stablizes ectoplasm so they don't need to worry about fueling there creations with energy as long as it resides in the Ghost Zone but they still half to create the realm itself and since Pariah Dark destroyed god knows how many, we know the rebuilding prosess of these realms wasn't long since the next episodes after the ghosts are back fighting Danny.
Conclusion
Ghosts are able to create their own realms made from there own energy that contains there very essense and said process isn't stated to take a long time and actually seems quick.
Problems
There are nothing inconsistant about this upgrade. Dorathea and Poindexter didn't create the realms they live in. They simply just live there. It's unconfirmed which ghost created them but given Dorathea has a mother who doesn't let her do what she wants and Poindexter is getting bullied in the realm he resides in I think it's pretty obvious they didn't make them. So the argument that would assume this would make the low, mid or even top tiers scale is false.
Scaling
So who scales?
Pariah Dark: At least Large Star level (Far superior to any ghost including those capable of creating realms that contain multiple stars)
Ancient Ghost: At least Large Star level (Fought Pariah Dark and together they overpowered him)
Danny Phantom (Ecto-Skeleton): At least Large Star level (Fought Pariah Dark and put up a decent fight)
Jazz Fenton (Ecto-Skeleton): At least Large Star level (The Ecto-Skeleton allowed Danny to fight Pariah Dark)
Dan Phantom: Yup, even Dan is getting upgraded. At least Large Star level (Caused chaos throught the Ghost Zone which houses ghosts powerful enough to create realms that contain stars, The Obsevents stated the only way the future would be saved is for Clockwork to destroy Danny before he becomes Dan)
Note: The Observents are capable of seeing the future of the timeline although they can't see the twists and turns it could take if someone changed something. Regardless the standared future showed that Dan couldn't be stopped and he was traveling through the Ghost Zone causing mayham so to assume not a single ghost tried to destroy him is wrong.
Future Valerie and Future Fright Knight who I never made keys for yet scale to Dan since the former can survive Dan's attacks and harm him, and the later can harm the former.
Danny Phantom (Ghostly Wail): Up to At least Large Star level with the Ghostly Wail (Casued noticable harm to Dan)
Note: Danny can regulate the power of his ghostly wail as shown by Dan as well. They can put force behind it to send things flying or just leave it as a sound wave to mess with peoples hearing and what not. So no, just because weaker enemies survive the Ghostly Wail doesn't mean they scale. Dan literaly shot a Ghostly Wail at Sam and Tucker yet all the force only focused on a small portion of a building even tho earlier in the episode he was sending tanks and helicopters flying.
Edit: According to ShadowWarrior1999 creating a universe with multiple stars is 4-A so instead of High 4-C/Large Star level, the characters I've listed will be 4-A/Multi-Solar System level.
Well that's it. All thoughts are welcome.
