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Reinhard vs. Mogul

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He has 1-A Soul Rip from Glad but due to how Glad works its... weird.

Also if you dont want people to bash your threads making a Reinhard thread wont help that.
 
He rips out your Soul, thats not the weird part. Its that Glad when opened covers an entire town meaning his opponent will probably already be inside, and from what I cant tell Rein probably wont use it due to CIS.
 
Well when he opens it it does Soul Rip everyone around him but it wont if Mogul is let inside immediately.
 
Oof. Welp.

Unless Mongul incaps him with one of his hax I don't know if he survives although I'm pretty sure Reinhard doesn't throw his spear right away.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Oof. Welp.
Unless Mongul incaps him with one of his hax I don't know if he survives although I'm pretty sure Reinhard doesn't throw his spear right away.
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Reinhard throws the spear if his opponent either disappoints him by being pathetic - or excites him by being OP.

It's isn't his starting move at a first confrontation though.
 
Iirc Monarch stated that LLT was a 3-D object with 1-A potency/hax so it might not hit him.

And Reinhard doesnt use LLT off the bat.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Oof. Welp.

Unless Mongul incaps him with one of his hax I don't know if he survives although I'm pretty sure Reinhard doesn't throw his spear right away.
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Well, Mogul can mindhax from what I see.
 
Well Mongul has the Sword of Acorns which can nullify power and absorb it too. Obviously he can't null the spear but what if he can prevent Reinhard from using his abilities.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Iirc Monarch stated that LLT was a 3-D object with 1-A potency/hax so it might not hit him.
And Reinhard doesnt use LLT off the bat.
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Honestly I never understood his logic.

So the spear was created from Mercurius's desire to die but can't reach him? It opened a hole in the Twilight Realm and poked a hole in Marie yet it can't reach 1-A realms?
 
True, also how the **** does Mogul null LLT? Its 1-A

EDIT Oh I think you meant to say he can't well he cant stop Glad since its also 1-A.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Well Mongul has the Sword of Acorns which can nullify power and absorb it too. Obviously he can null the spear but what if he can prevent Reinhard from using his abilities.
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Hmmm...

Anyway, it doesn't really matter since the only thing that Reinhard has that will allow him to kill a 2-A being is the spear.

And unless someone added 1-A mindhax resistance to Reinhard page - then Reinhard gets mindhaxed hard, and I feel like Reinhard loses pretty concisely.
 
EmperorRorepme said:
Agreed. Unless Mongul's mind hax is trash. Didn't Reinhard resist High 3-A mind hax?
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High into 3-A, not High 3-A. The second best 3-D mindhax on the site next to his own.

Mindhax isn't really rated on AP tiers though.


Honestly, a 5-B fighting a 2-A is ******* stupid though.
 
Yeah matches like this arnt the best, like sure Rein has the powers to deal with him but having beings that are physically different dimensional levels it makes the fight weird.
 
The match is literally a 5-B with 1-A hax unable to pull anything off because he gets mindhaxed by a higher-dimensional entity,

Finding good matches for smurfs are hard in general.
 
He has to prove what? That Rein loses to the Mindhax or the Soul Rip?

Cause I thought he did have 1-A Soul Rip but Rein would bring Mogul into Glad to fight so he wouldnt be hit by the Soul Hax?
 
Rein would summon glads around himself and send his legion out first. If mogul beat the legion he would either spear or let him in
 
PsychoWarper said:
He has to prove what? That Rein loses to the Mindhax or the Soul Rip?
Cause I thought he did have 1-A Soul Rip but Rein would bring Mogul into Glad to fight so he wouldnt be hit by the Soul Hax?
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Earlier, Tony wrote this:

"He summons glads and his souls is gone, but there are users who contest this."

I am the user who contests this line of thought for a simple reason - Reinhard doesn't and wouldn't do this.

Now, I am not saying that Reinhard doesn't have the soul rip - he does, it happened.

Howeverm, the only time Reinhard ever fought not in his castle was in Kei route where his first line of thought was to summon his castle around himself immediately. And because of SBA, Reinhard's distance with his opponent would be close enough that when Reinhard summons his castle, his opponent would be inside the castle with him.

Gladsheimr's soul rip comes from stealing the souls from the old law and bring them into the new law - so it can't be done from the inside, because they would already be within the new law.


Not to mention that Reinhard's character would mean he would never beat someone with instant soul rip - he wants a fight, not a stomp.


So saying that Reinhard would use Glads 1-A soul rip is ridiculous in my opinion. Tony has contested this line of notion, but has never debunked my logic.
 
Reinhard could very easily summon the castle in such a way that his opponent isn't inside it.

Also him wanting a fight wouldn't mean he would never use glads this way. If an opponent survives the soul rip they would definently give him a good fight.

Glads works by stealing souls from the old law yeah but that doesn't mean it wouldn't work if the target is in glads. Their soul would still be part of Mercurius' law until Rein claims it afaik.
 
Paul Frank said:
Reinhard could very easily summon the castle in such a way that his opponent isn't inside it.
Also him wanting a fight wouldn't mean he would never use glads this way. If an opponent survives the soul rip they would definently give him a good fight.

Glads works by stealing souls from the old law yeah but that doesn't mean it wouldn't work if the target is in glads. Their soul would still be part of Mercurius' law until Rein claims it afaik.
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SBA makes the fighters only 4KM away from each other - Reinhard's castle is bigger than this and his opponents would be in the castle with him.

Yes it would - proven by the fact that Reinhard summoned the castle around himself and his opponents the one time he wasn't already inside of it and actually was in a fight. The only times Reinhard has ever used the soul rip was to steal the souls from fodder humans in an entire city, never in combat.

Glads is detached from the old law as it is outputting its own new law. Being inside of the new law means you are inside of the new law. How can Glads bring you into the new law if you are already inside of the new law? And besides, scans that Glads soul rip works from the inside? 'Cause that never happened in the novel.
 
Haven't played IKaBey still, once I do I will bring up the argument, for now I'll joke with it and that's why I scratched the text.
 
Tony di bugalu said:
Haven't played IKaBey still, once I do I will bring up the argument, for now I'll joke with it and that's why I scratched the text.
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How would IKaBey prove anything? The castle was out for 2-3 months straight in that game.

Reinhard didn't summon it, as he stayed inside of it throughout the entire novel.
 
Because I want to experience the novel and then examine the battle Meth? Your only proof or Rein not soul riping someone is when he is in a thigh position, if he soul rips one of them the swastika is ****** along with the holy ark, he needs one to die as a sacrifice and the other to serve as albedo.
 
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