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Yhwach vs The Operator

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Yhwach

Yhwach face
Last key Yhwach
I could make this SBA Yhwach if it is still fair.


VS

Warframes

The Operator,Tenno
First warframe still Loki (Warframe)
All equipment, specters etc.

Warframes stat amp themselves to High 6-A and have dmg red for 5-C Dura

Transferrnence is Energy Projection.


Plot:

Lotus: Tenno, the solar system is in great danger. A new foe has appeared going around by the name of Yhwach.

The Operator: That moustache is to be envied, gotta admit

Lotus: Do not be foolish Tenno. Do not let his appareance decieve you. Although he may look weak, he is like nothing we have ever faced before. The grennier, corpus, infested, oroki, sentients and even The Stalker all have perished in but a single moment. Even Teshi and his soldiers tried to fight it, but to no avail. No matter whether they tried to fight him head on, or take him by surprise, it was impossible either way. Be on the lookout Tenno.

The Operator: Come on Lotus, it's not like i haven't been able to stop these guys before.

Lotus: TENNO!

The Operator: Agh, ok.

The Man in The Wall: Haha, looks like a worthy opponent. Let's go kiddo.

The Operator: Beating the elderly ain't my forte, but am used to it either way. If he's anything like the grennier queens, this will be a piece of cake.

-After some time passes and Loki reaches the battle ground where Yhwach currently is-

Yhwach: Welp, been expecting ya

Loki: *Stares in confusion.*

The Operator: What? He was expecting my warframe? How did he know? Well I can't take this as a joke, gotta stay vigilant. Well for now he doesn't seem to know that Loki is not alive, i'll have to use this to my advantage. Pluto seems good for now.
 
Oh you switched it

I guess Yhwach could just absorb the frames or the energy but he can't deal with the opperator without almighty
 
Dis fair? Or should i make 5-C Yhwach? (Does 2nd High 6-A or 5-C even make a difference here? Since almighty will be the main ability).
 
He nulls the frame and the operator's ability to control them while also being immune to everything the operator and their frames can do

Oh he can also teleport
 
I don't think his teleport can get him to the operator.

He can only null hax, not energy. Example he can't null reiatsu cus "almighty". Same for void energy, and weapons.
 
He can break all bankais

He could just break all frames

I'm also 100% sure he can null the Quincy's ability to use reishi
 
Paul Frank said:
He can break all bankais
He could just break all frames

I'm also 100% sure he can null the Quincy's ability to use reishi
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Breaking Bankai is not the same as breaking warframes. Not to mention that they can resurrect, beyond the level of destruction Yhwach can inflict.
 
How is breaking a bankai not the same as breaking a frame

He didn't break the ability to use bankai he broke the swords

If he breaks all frames resurrection won't help since they will all break again
 
But the Bankai are still supernatural as they have a form of spirit.

And he is physically incapable of breaking the warframes. Their durability alone >>> Yhwach. (rolling guard ovo).
 
The frames are supernatural as they have a person transfering their conciousness and energy into them

He breaks them with almighty not a physical attack
 
No they are not. That's like me calling a real life drone supernatural. The swords are by nature supernatural as they are a spiritual being taking the form of a sword. Don't even try to make the comparison.

Explain the mechanics.
 
You don't transfer your mind and semi sentient energy into an drone though

He picks or alters the future so that every single frame every is broken and unusable permanently or the operator can't send them out.
 
Doesn't make them supernatural. The warframe is still a meat puppet, how it moves is not a trait of the warframe. The swords are by nature supernatural as they are a spiritual being taking the form of a sword. Don't even try to make the comparison.

Yeah good luck. There would need to be a future where they break first. No one in verse can do that, and neither can Yhwach acomplish that.
 
The fact they are controlled by the operator's conscious being put into them is a trait of them. Void energy is also definently supernatural. Also it doesn't really have to be supernatural to be nulled, BG9 is a robot.

That's incorrect. The stalker, the sentients, and strong members of the factions can all break/disable a frame. Yhwach also could create the future where the frames are just broken. No one in bleach could have accomplished the act of breaking every bankai either and he still broke them all with the almighty.
 
Not exactly. That's like saying real life drones are non-corporeal, because by putting electricity in them which is a non corporeal charge/energy, it becomes a trait of the drone himself.

Yes, but none of them can put the warframes down for good. Also the operator can still mind hax him.
 
The drone doesn't have you transfer your mind into it and electricity is natural unlike void energy.

The fact they can break a frame even temporarily would be enough for a future where every frame is broken to exist and Yhwach can pick it. He can also again just create the future through the almighty. Operator can't mindhax him cause almighty gg.
 
Yes, but adding another element into something to control it, doesn't add all the properties of said element. As i said saying Void Energy is used so they are supernatural, is like saying electricity is used so they are non-corporeal.

No. The stalker lost in the second dream (fled) and has never appeared ever since (except in game but that's game mechanics). And the stalker could never acomplish breaking all the warframes. It is the exact reason he sought Hunhow's help, because he couldn't put an end to the warframe army.

Almighty chooses futures, not create them. And it would be impossible for the almighty to create a future where the warframes are all broken because again "it is impossible for anyone to acomplish that". Also breaking 1 warframe wouldn't mean anything as others would come up. Ichigo could take other swords just fine too.

Not exactly. It is done through energy means, not through hax. Ichigo can still use Getsuga on him, that's all the reason i need to say mind hax will work.
 
Expect the fact that the frames are even able to be controlled that way or use powers would make them supernatural

They dont have to be capable of breaking every frame but the fact that a frame can be broken at all means that a future where they were all broken would exist

Almighty can apparantly create futures too someone showed me a scan when I claimed the same thing about it only picking futures.

He can null energy though too? Reishi control from quinces, kido etc. Iirc he also did null getsuga before.
 
"Break 1 frame" = a future where every frame is broken. I love the logic. There is no such future, because the one frame that is broken (who can't even be broken because as i said, the stalker not only has fled and never appeared again, but also is not a factor in this fight, as at no point in the future will the stalker appear again unless it's after Yhwach dies) will be recreated before the others are broken. And Yhwach can only interfere with futures where he's present, he specifically said so to Ichigo and said "you were capable of changing your futures because i wasn't part of those futures". So that's a no-go.

Yeah, that'd need some serious feats of creating a future that has no chance of happening.

Yet he doesn't always do that.
 
I think saying that the frames can not be broken looks like a Hyperbole. I am not voting but I am sure that if there are countless futures then there may be a future where the frames are broken, although I see that Loki is more likely to win.

I liked the dialogue in the OP.
 
KazuiK said:
I think saying that the frames can not be broken looks like a Hyperbole. I am not voting but I am sure that if there are countless futures then there may be a future where the frames are broken, although I see that Loki is more likely to win.
I liked the dialogue in the OP.
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Well yes, because the operator/the warframes are pretty much top tier in their own verse. I mean they are 1 child fighting against a literal solar system of billions of infintely clonable armies. The only one who could kill the warframes was The Stalker and ONLY the stalker, because of their resurrection. The stalker is the only one who can absorb their Oro preventing their resurrection. But in the lores he has never appeared again. Other than him no one can, not even yhwach, because they cannot beat their Regenerationn.

Well vs debates are primarily for fun, so am glad you did.
 
The God Of Procrastination said:
Yhwach via Power Mimicry.
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That is not a win condition though. And Yhwach cannot copy/use warframe's powers because they are based on void energy, something he cannot control.
 
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