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Steven vs Red (GRACE)

To be specific, Red gets Pikachu, Snorlax, Lapras, Venusaur (no megas), Blastoise (No Megas), and Charizard (no megas)
 
This one but it's mountain level and island so I'm a tad lost at which one we'd use

Assuming it is mountain level dura, Red takes it. Way, way more versatile, Pikachu can palayse, Lapras can freeze, Venusaur can poison, Charizard flight counters Steven's moon jump etc.
 
Can't Red still harm Steven though? I mean, he can't bypass the shields and bubbles, but he can still harm Steven
 
In that case I'd say Steven would win this cause Red'd have no idea what would be the best Pokemon to first use against him, so he'd likely make a mistake and choose one that couldn't do anything. Voting Steven.
 
He can control the speed at which he falls as well as the speed at which he is thrown in any direction, and he can bring himself to a complete stop if need be
 
Okay. I'm looking at this, and I can only see Red winning if these two things happen

1. He manages to knock the Sheild out of Steven's hand

2. He uses his sleep, paralysis, or Absorption on Steven

That's the only wincons I can really see for Red. And If I use his High 6-C version, he would stomp. And if I use Steven's High 6-A version, it would be a stomp foe hin
 
Its not in his hand, its formed in front of his arm, and he can form multipel and instantly remake it if he's disarmed
 
I stil wanna know what Arsenal meant by this. Like is he retracting his vote or is he saying we can't do this match?

I said it because I legitimately can't see Red winning. Like Steven can counter everything Red has
 
Can Steve literally counter everything from Red's Pokemons?

I think it is best if we consider on what Red's Pokemons could do with proper explanation to ensure it is a fair match.

Also neutral to this matchup anyway.
 
So wouldn't this be a stomp? Red has no way of actually harming Steven due to the damn Shield and Bubbles. And if Steven didn't have those, then the fight becomes a stomp in Red's favor
 
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