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Masadaverse Discussion Thread 21

OOOF

and pretty sure old dude was second heaven but so war purple hair so technically muzan in prime
 
I think we should be calling the old guy "Pre-Retcon Muzan".

Lawl

They are technically the same person.

It's either Pantheon retcon or that's supposed to be him in his prime, atleast in appearance. Both are speculations however, we know next to nothing about Pantheon yet.

So You pick.

At this point you can speculate just about anything since the gacha is... unfortunately.. dead.
 
Wasnt old man Muzan just the KKK version due to Hajun being that one prick that sitted on the throne?
 
K3 versions were supposed to be the real ones.

Then Pantheon became a thing.

It's probably either design change or that those in KKK weren't depicted accurately.

You could even see entire DI cast wearing some fancy outfits there.
 
Thats the problem though no? We know how the DI cast looks in their original world, so the KKK design coudnt be the correct one. The same should apply to Muzan no?
 
I'd assume so, but wasn't there also a picture of all gods standing together in some edgy black suits?

Also, wasn't Hajun using the memories of the Throne to replicate the previous Gods' laws? Like, how could it be wrong. The outfits might not be the same, but atleast DI cast facial features were identical to the real ones.

Even though Hajun only recreated the shades thanks to his autism, those are still from the Throne record.

I guess we'll need to wait for the not-gonna-be-released Pantheon or Masada to clear this up.

My opinion is "lol I dunno"

EDIT: No one's gonna bump Meng Hao vs Reinhard? :3
 
Yeah, I too thought that they were some sort of portrayals of the real Gods.

I can see some possibilities, mainly-

1.) The design just changed, not that K3 version was wrong, they just got changed.

2.) A "They weren't depicted accurately" retcon.

Either way, don't think it matters, cause we're all for the power levels, aren't we? *gets slapped*
 
The choice of making Muzan look young was because of the VA. They wanted Muzan to look fresh in order to fit the VA he received in pantheon prologue.

Dark warrior 100 said:
Shouldn't Ren be FTL only in his briah?
What do you mean?
 
His profile lists his base speed as FTL. It indeed should be MHS+ in Yetzirah and FTL in Briah.
 
shouldn't Ren be mftl+ in briah? he can 1000x accelerate time and still Wolfgang Schreiber kept up with him so Wolfgang mftl+ in Yetzirah
 
Infera28 said:
shouldn't Ren be mftl+ in briah? he can 1000x accelerate time and still Wolfgang Schreiber kept up with him so Wolfgang mftl+ in Yetzirah
This was brought up many times but I don't recall it ever being definitively concluded.
 
Infera28 said:
shouldn't Ren be mftl+ in briah? he can 1000x accelerate time and still Wolfgang Schreiber kept up with him so Wolfgang mftl+ in Yetzirah
Shreiber is always faster than you.

Marie could have accelerated thousand times more than Ren can and Shreiber would still be faster.

It isn't that he is intrinsically fast but that he is always faster than his opponent, it's what his power is meant to do.
 
@TonySanNom isn't he only in Briah faster than anyone no matter what? in Yetzirah he still moved faster than a mftl+ Ren. i don't remember if it stated in Yetzirah he is faster than anyone too
 
The real cal howard said:
That's not what an NLF is tho. Eh, I'll finish the vn first before I judge
What I am saying is that Schreiber's limit is infinity - he can't excel beyond that. It is made pretty obvious in his fights with Wilhiem and Ren.

How far are you, in the novel I mean?
 
The real cal howard said:
Same as I was before. Ren and Shirou's girl just met.
Ohhh Ellie is one of my favorite girls.

I find it funny how visually similar her design is to Ren, Shirou has a type.
 
I'm persobally thinking on one thing

Will I like Marie? Not because "hurr durr she's 1-A" like I normally am, but in comparison to the other girls, Rea, Kei, Kasumi, and even Rusalka or Beatrice, is there personality left for her? And even then, what makes her good enough that she's the cano choice? Kei is stoic and a kuudere. Kasumi is your genki girl childhood friend who's outgoing. Rea is a sarcastic deadpan girl. Even Rusalka excels at being a wonderful b*tch. What's Marie like?
 
The real cal howard said:
I'm persobally thinking on one thing
Will I like Marie? Not because "hurr durr she's 1-A" like I normally am, but in comparison to the other girls, Rea, Kei, Kasumi, and even Rusalka or Beatrice, is there personality left for her? And even then, what makes her good enough that she's the cano choice? Kei is stoic and a kuudere. Kasumi is your genki girl childhood friend who's outgoing. Rea is a sarcastic deadpan girl. Even Rusalka excels at being a wonderful b*tch. What's Marie like?
Marie is very pure and innoncent.

I don't know if you will really like her personality or not, but I just like her, and want her to be happy, you know? She's probably my favorite girl tbh.


And eveyone is better than Bakasumi.
 
The real cal howard said:
Personally I didn't really liked the main heroines, they feel bland to me and none of them really excelled at doing their own roles, they were more like "insert generic female protagonist here with this or that quirk", nothing special.

I think the best girl of the whole novel was Betty, to me she was like a real person fighting for something in wich she belives using her own hero to keep moving forward (or maybe I liked her because I feel more of a connection with her than the others) instead of crying over spoiled milk.

She fights for what she belives is right and despite ******* up in grande she still keeps her aim at the sole thing she wanted, bring down Reinhard and save her hero. She didn't make it tho but died triying.

At least those are my thoughts with the female cast (Eleonore is pretty good but she isn't one of the heroines so she ain't here and I have a little problem with Riza but that is more personal).
 
I some one have problem with Rusalka, Riza or the main heroines..., imagine the full "original" game (you know, the +18 scenes) whit context, dialoge, etc..., oh boy, what a shit xD


ONly Beatrice, Eleonore and Eli are the good ones.
 
Idk how you could dislike Katsumi. She's your closest friend and the person who knows and relates to you best. If anyone could serve as your closest companion it would be her.
 
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