Profile for own film, revisited

Back in the beginning of 2018, I asked the questio of whether or not it was feasible to make profiles for a work of fiction called Basement Heroes that me and my highschool friends had made as a freelance project.

This work consisted of two low-budget, feature-length superhero films (and a planned but unfinished novelization) that were shown in a local theatre, briefly sold on dvd in the state of Washington (thus making it a published work), and were later released for free viewing on Youtube.

The first installment is of poor filming quality and unclear visual direction, but we improved massively in practically every aspect by the time of the second film (Which still turned out fairly poorly, but this was due to behind-the-scenes conflicts)

When I originally brought it up, the possibility was (very politely) declined by my senior users due to the work being of subpar quality. However, in recent times we have had more discussion on our policies of what is and isn't allowed, and I would like to re-push for the profiles being wiki-worthy in light of this.

In light of certain factors, such as the terrible visual direction and deleted content, making certain events in the films very difficult to follow, I have already offered to act as a sort of impromptu Word of God on these films (having been a minor actor in the first film and a major actor and writer for the sequel). I fully intend to avoid all bias and wanking of any kind and only repeat what was official information at the time of the films' writing. I also can ask for clarification with the director of the second film, who remains my closest personal friend.

I remember a thread where it was said that personal bodies of work as long notable, can be added onto the site. However, the restriction was that the creator can take no part in the revision of said characters and its verse.

Again, Sera's points about notoriety still stand. If it's popular enough, it may get a spot on the site.

1. Would I count as the creator considering that I neither directed nor was the lead writer in either film?

2. If so, does that mean that someone else would be required to make the profiles for me?

3. Best case scenario, I'm hoping profiles on this wiki would give the film some extra notoriety.

It was rightfully brought up by Agnaa in a previous thread that the primary concern regarding the creation of these profiles would be that I would take the opportunity to wank them and give them undue hax, seeing as even though they technically aren't my creations, I still look back on these films fondly and was involved in their creation.

However, I think that doing so would be a great disservice to the films, as a work of fiction that I was involved with.

I will also be the first to admit that the characters are not very powerful at all. Only a scant few characters possess any types of hax, and it is only combat effective in specific conditions. AP-wise, the verse hardly treads above 9-B at best, with exactly one character being higher.

The issue that I brought up wasn't so much that you specifically would wank them (since your WoG needs to align with the source material anyway, and I don't think you'd do that), my issue was that other people would take this opportunity to create a wanked verse and try to brute force into getting it published by some random company, so that they can make profiles here for it.

For example, Suggsverse.

If someone who wasn't involved with the film production and just found it on their own wanted to make profiles for the verse, and then you came in to provide WoG, that would have been fine, but you introducing it sets a bad precedent imo.

I think a creator under absolutely no circumstances should participate in any debate regarding a verse it made. That includes directly or indirectly directing the creation of profiles, as well as debating in vs-threads. In essence a verse should be so big that the creator has no interest on joining here.

So, you offering to act as word of god is the first big reason against allowing those profiles.


That aside, it sounds like an FC/OC level work, even if somewhat published. It doesn't seem like it would actually pass the popularity level common for works we allow. (Though I'm not claiming that we are necessarily completly consistent in that regards)

I agree with Agnaa's comment.

I see, that makes much more sense.

So it's less of a problem with this work specifically and more being concerned about what it could potentially pave the way for?

In my opinion, yeah.

Alright. Sad but understandable. Thanks for your time, everyone.

I agree with the others that this seems more like something for the FC/OC wiki. We need to have some standards of notability, or we get swarmed with irrelevant poorly made self-published works from YouTube.