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Some Missing stuff from Magi about Ill Ilah

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So after revisting Magi i notice some stuff missing about Ill Ilah.


Ill Ilah
Tier:

Should't it have The Medium as Key and in this state it's atleast 5-B because of these two statements: https://www.***********.net/magi/187/6 https://www.***********.net/magi/187/7 and not even 13 extreme magic could defeat it


Missing Abilities:

Ill Ilah should have Existence Erasure because of these scans: https://www.***********.net/magi/187/5 https://www.***********.net/magi/215/19 https://www.***********.net/magi/215/10

Ill Ilah in Medium state has an Defenive Wall and it also has Adaptation

Ill Ilah should have Fate Manipulation because of this stuff https://www.***********.net/magi/232/5

Ill Ilah should have Creation It,s the Creator of Alma Tora and should Time Manipulation, Space Manipulation, Absorption, Mind Manipulation, Sealing, BFR, Atomic Manipulation, Curse Manipulation, Non-Corporeal and Illusion Creation just like the other Gods of Magi.

Ill Ilah might have Magic because of this https://www.***********.net/magi/215/12 and Soul, Physics, Vector and Law Manipulation if you consider Ugo 3 world theory and this https://www.***********.net/magi/222/7

Ill Ilah has Immortality types 1,3,8,9. 8 because of the whole Hierachy of God and David stuff and 9 because of it's true bodies lies https://www.***********.net/magi/231/17

Ill Ilah Regen atleast Low-Godly same as the other Gods


Resistance

Ill Ilah might have Resistance to all this stuff because he is the creator of it but i can be completely wrong about this.

Others
If Ill Ilah Law Manipulation and Vector Manipulation is accept then you should give it to the other God tiers of Magi as well and maybe Adaptation and Defenive Wall.

I am also fine if the Medium gets it's own page but it fits more with a key for Ill Ilah in my opinion

I also think he doesn't have his God abilities in his Medium Form seesing how he got defeat.
 
Destroying all life on the planet is High 6-A not 5-B, from what i remember alma toran still exists just no life is there, didn't like judar or someone go there? Yea think it's just High 6-A. Creating the world is 5-B though.

Isn't that just life manipulation instead of existence erasure? I see bodies there if they were erased nothing should be there.

Forcefield creation and adaptation are fine.

Fate is fine i guess.

Creation is fine, don't know about the rest, what proves he scales to the other gods?

Magic is fine.

Law manipulation etc are probably fine.

Not sure where type 1,3,4,8, immortality come from, would have to see the quotes, type 9 though, it just says david entered another dimension, guess that's where il illahs body is, if so not sure it's type 9, you have to be in another plane of existence to get it not another dimension.

If it scales to the other gods, i guess low godly is ok.

Yea this is a big no for me, we don't just give creator gods resistances to everything cause they are god.

I guess this is fine.
 
Medium should have him own profile. And I desagree with this "word busting" statements. Il Ilah should not have the same abilities as the other Gods like Sinbad or Ugo, he being a God does not mean much as he doesnt show anything.
 
Immortality 1 because of this stuff https://www.***********.net/magi/324/12 i am suprised that the other Gods dont have it, 3 Regen self explained, 4 my mistake will remove that one, 8 either because of hierachy of Gods stuff or this the Ruhk stuff. @M3X


How is Ill Ilah any different from the other Gods in the serie after all here he and David are creating a new world agai. Of course the only difference would be Dimension these Gods are in.
 
I trust Celestial Pegasus' sense of judgement.
 
The content of the OP is mostly correct, anyone who has read Magi would know everything he is talking about. I just disagree on the Planet level and Il Ilah scaling to the other Gods.
 
M3X does have a valid point. Il Ilah is a comparatively weak deity.
 
Well to say Il Ilah weak is unfair to Il Ilah because it was his Magoi that Ugo used to created the Magic tool that we call Sacerd Place that could change the Hierarchy of Gods and most of his Magoi was absorbed from him by David and of course used by both Solomon and Ugo to go 1 dimension higher.

Btw before people get confused the only thing i wanne scale Il Ilah on with the Gods is their abilities not their Tiers
 
Yeah, his magoi was used. So what? Ugo needed to study to understand how to change the hierarchy. Il Ilah's magoi only served as energy to this, but he does not scale for reasons above.

We know that you want to scale just the abilities, but I desagree as I've explained above.
 
No to 5-B ill illah, this is done through removing all the ruhk in the world, the same thing was done to Alma torran, despite the world still being there.

That's not literal existence erasure, it's just removing Ruhk from them which turns their bodies into lifeless husks.

If i recall correctly, Ill illah and the medium aren't the same entity, so i'm not sure why this would apply to ill illah

Agreed with fate manipulation

Agreed with all the stuff the other gods have

Fine with magic and the Ugo stuff

Type 9 is fine, the dimension they entered is the higher realm where ill illah resides so it technically is another plane of existence i think, i'm also fine with 3,8 and 9 since the other gods have it too

Also fine with Low-Godly

Not sure about resistance, considering this stuff has been shown to work on him

I'm fine with the other gods getting the abilities, also the medium should get his own page, he's just the trigger to bring ill illah into the world
 
TataHakai seems to make sense.
 
Well, I suppose that the accepted changes can probably be applied then.
 
Things that have been accept:

- Ill Ilah gets Fate Manipulation because of this stuff https://www.***********.net/magi/232/5

- Ill Ilah should have Creation It,s the Creator of Alma Toran and should Time Manipulation, Space Manipulation, Absorption, Mind Manipulation, Sealing, BFR, Atomic Manipulation, Curse Manipulation, Non-Corporeal and Illusion Creation just like the other Gods of Magi.

- Ill Ilah might have Magic because of this https://www.***********.net/magi/215/12 and Soul, Physics, Vector and Law Manipulation if you consider Ugo 3 world theory and this https://www.***********.net/magi/222/7

- Ill Ilah has Immortality types 1,3,8,9,8 because of the whole Hierachy of God and David stuff and 9 because of it's true bodies lies https://www.***********.net/magi/231/17

- Ill Ilah Regen atleast Low-Godly same as the other Gods

- If Ill Ilah Law Manipulation and Vector Manipulation is accept then you should give it to the other God tiers

- the Medium gets it's own page

Things that have been rejected:

- Ill Ilah should have Existence Erasure because of these scans: https://www.***********.net/magi/187/5 https://www.***********.net/magi/215/19 https://www.***********.net/magi/215/10

- Ill Ilah might have Resistance to all this stuff because he is the creator of it but i can be completely wrong about this.

- Ill Ilah Key as The Medium.

I wanne know what Celestial Pegasus opinion is on the Immortality types 1,3,8,9,8 before we apply the changes.
 
Okay. You can ask him to comment here again via his message wall.
 
Don't have a problem with immortality if he scales from other people who have it.

I don't think he should have resistance to everything just because he is a creator god though.
 
Yes, I suppose that the revision can start then.
 
Okay. I will close this then.
 
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