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Rohan Kishibe vs Aureolus Izzard

ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
I thought Izzard had to speak to do his thing.
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Nah, not necessary. Ars Magna is acually thought-based and he only speaks to focus his mind on the desired effect. Even he hasn't change to speak but he should already think. So it should affect.
 
Rohan? Yeah he almost always uses HD straight away. If he's against someone he hasn't seen before he will activate it, incap him, write that he cannot kill Rohan Kishibe and completely nullify him. Or he can rip out pages to kill

If Izzard also goes for the kill immediately it's pretty much an Incon. If he doesn't, Rohan writes
 
SBA said that bohh have willing to kill and Izzard also pretty ruthless . So pretty sure that his first move in a fight with his mental faculties intact and with an opponent he doesn't personally care about like in the novels is very, very likely to be simply killing the opponent without wasting any time with very simple commands like "Die", "Explode", "Drown", "Melt", etc...
 
Come to think of it. What will happen if both think and effect at the same time?. Izzard turn to book and Rohan die?. In that case, do Izzard return back to normal after Rohan die?
 
Hmm... I don't think it's will be deactivate when Izzard unthinkable. For example

  • Touma's right arm that was cut off during fight didn't come back to normal after he beat him and need to go to doctor to heal it back.
  • Izzard used "Go Back" to undo the destructions of building before. And when Touma beated him. The building didn't come back to collapse again. Otherwise, it should be trouble for Touma and Stiyl to escape from collapsing building
The case that show about his effect is deactive is "Explode from the inside" which he used on Stiyl. But that's because Izzard is in the middle of a mental breakdown and think about it. Which will not be happen if he is on unthinkable state.
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Izzard is rendered unable to think if he gets made into a book btw. Will that deactivate all the RW?
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No unless it was a specific command to be in effect and not a fire and forget thing like "die", for example styil turned to normal cause he was still alive (he even casted spell in that state) as he wanted him to suffer, so he left him alive in that state, but everything else did not change

it should be inc
 
If izzard thinks die and rohan uses heaven's door

Rohan loses because izzard gets booked and rohan dies which results in izzard standing up after confused
 
Rohan loses because izzard gets booked and rohan dies which results in izzard standing up after confused

If they think at the same time one dies and one is turned into a book

The stands effect is undone upon rohans death so rohan just kinda dies
 
Because that's what he starts with if you aren't Touma

Lizard thknks "Die" and calls it a day
 
Paul Frank said:
Rohan loses because izzard gets booked and rohan dies which results in izzard standing up after confused
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If they think at the same time one dies and one is turned into a book
The stands effect is undone upon rohans death so rohan just kinda dies

This is my through in the first place too. I feel like both will think and effect at the same time which makes the result be like this. So I slightly leaning toward Izzard here.
 
Incon is incorrect though

One character uses transmutation that goes away upon death and the other uses death hax both at the same time with a thought. That means the death hax user wins which in this case is Izzard
 
Paul Frank said:
Incon is incorrect though
One character uses transmutation that goes away upon death and the other uses death hax both at the same time with a thought. That means the death hax user wins which in this case is Izzard
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Said Answer says no.
 
It would be incon as seen with the professor the seal isn't undone upon death so she dies and izzard is sealed
 
Rohan can write commands onto himself. I'm going to clarify this in his profile rework. He does so to repress all of the memories of "Rohan at the Louvre", it's not a stretch to say that beforehand he can write "Can only be commanded by Rohan Kishibe" and thus be immune to Izzard's "die" command.

Though that requires prep, so I agree with this inconclusive train.
 
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