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Wiz vs Cole MacGrath
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I'd like to participate in a debate, but I know absolute jack about Cole, since I only played Second Son, so
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What does she lead with?
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Sealing. But she can instantly change spells if she's in trouble.
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How does it work?
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She seals you in ice that nulls your abilities. She fires an ice beam. Note that she can teleport or power null the black holes if she reacts to it.
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Cole resists powernull now though, and he himself can teleport
Also, sealing in Ice doesn't allow you to bypass High regen as his atoms on such a small level can still recuperate and regenerate a new body.
Also, sealing in Ice doesn't allow you to bypass High regen as his atoms on such a small level can still recuperate and regenerate a new body.
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So how does her sealing work?
She just thinks and you're sealed?
She just thinks and you're sealed?
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Firing beam at you and when you hit, you're sealed.
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Cole loves to spam from range so it's going to take ages for them to really hit eachother.
Does she have anything else to beat him?
Does she have anything else to beat him?
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I thought it was thought-based from what i saw in Wilhelm and Mami vs Wiz?ShiroyashaGinSan said:
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@Veloxt I corrected it on later half of the debate.
@Gar Thought based status effects that bypass resistance, she also have curses that bypass resistance too. She also is a ranged fighter as she is a magician.
@Gar Thought based status effects that bypass resistance, she also have curses that bypass resistance too. She also is a ranged fighter as she is a magician.
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What do those status affects do?
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Bunch of stuff. Putting someone to sleep (works on people made out of earth), paralysis, poison, standard stuff. For me, curses are the ones that threatens Cole. There's petrification, probability, to even instant death, though the latter is OOC.
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Yeah Cole has one win condition but its nearly impossible to land
Wiz low difficulty
Wiz low difficulty
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>starts from 1 KM away
>Wiz doesn't have enhanced senses
... She can't even see what she needs to hax, meanwhile Cole has radar sense and the ability to nuke several hundred Kilometers with an RSB which by AP alone basically oneshots her
Edit: Just saw High Regen, which takes care of RSB. Huh.
Even so, if Cole's inital RSB doesn't work (Which he'll know because he can sense electricity from this distance, and literally everything nearby besides her would have it completely absent), he would probably just teleport next to them and shove a black hole down their throat, which would destroy them on a level beyond atoms.
>Wiz doesn't have enhanced senses
... She can't even see what she needs to hax, meanwhile Cole has radar sense and the ability to nuke several hundred Kilometers with an RSB which by AP alone basically oneshots her
Edit: Just saw High Regen, which takes care of RSB. Huh.
Even so, if Cole's inital RSB doesn't work (Which he'll know because he can sense electricity from this distance, and literally everything nearby besides her would have it completely absent), he would probably just teleport next to them and shove a black hole down their throat, which would destroy them on a level beyond atoms.
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<Teleport near her
She nulls it and induces a status affect
She nulls it and induces a status affect
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Probably since the black hole is like....Super obvious and easy to dodge.
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Of course it is when it has a really slow activation time compared to thinking "This person is cursed" and being done with it
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Which is very slow compared to thinking, which is exactly what I said
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Extrasensory works on Kilometers.
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Uh, does Cole really have a win condition here?
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As we said above Black holes will kill Wiz but they get billed before they affect her
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Wiz FRA
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This is really decisive (and borderline stompish tbh), but yeah, Wiz takes this pretty easily.
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What's her real first move? I know this was answered but Shiro gave multiple ways for Wiz to win this, which confuses me
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Magicians and lich change spells out of the fly tbh. First, sealing. But she casts defensive spells like power null and teleportation. When it won't work, she'll move on to the next. Then next. Then next. Like normal magicians do.
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Bump
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Tiddies FRA
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I don't know if this is fair really
Wiz needs to act OOC for Cole to actually get a hit
Wiz needs to act OOC for Cole to actually get a hit
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That's my problem with this match tbh
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Assuming this isn't a stomp
Best Konosuba girl FRA
Funny how Kessler used to stomp Aqua but now one of the god tiers can't even hold a candle to a high tier like Wiz
Best Konosuba girl FRA
Funny how Kessler used to stomp Aqua but now one of the god tiers can't even hold a candle to a high tier like Wiz
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