Mario Revision On The Subject For Nerfing

Controversy With Mario And Having All His Versions Together Is A Problem, So Let Me Explain.


http://fullcomic.pro/read-comic-onl...-to-the-first-30-years-tpb-part-1-149935.html.

mario has both contents, indexes and timelines of the official releases (17 in total)

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m5krEGUz...254ChuB49S2TIC571R_9G772gCHMYCw/s0/RCO012.jpg.

and

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DG6jB9PC...FW8FoqyEo6hUWuKyeThCi7KxgCHMYCw/s0/RCO014.jpg

and paper mario nor any other spinoff version ain't on this timeline! and two of their games came before the production of galaxy 2 meaning it is not canon to our mario,

there's also the sports games, which are not included either, just because characters from the paper mario series make an appearance in the mario series, it does not mean they are connected,

they clearly have their own histories although unspecified or substantiated. as for mario-kun,

it's just a retelling of the mario games and too many things happen that contradict the main games and the extras are canon to it so that scratches that from the corn field.

the official mario timeline is also here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzkkgK_zQHI&feature=player_embedded#!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt8lytWW7KY.

http://marioandluigipaperjam.nintendo.com/

confirming they are different from one another.....

if mario is not paper mario and kun, Or The Spinoff Ones than he cannot scale and should not have their potency.

Mario Cannot Be Paper Mario, So Paper Mario Cannot Be Mario.

About the timeline:

That's clearly referring to the core games only. Unless you're implying that Donkey Kong, Mario's first game, and Yoshi's Island aren't canon.

The real cal howard said:

About the timeline:

That's clearly referring to the core games only. Unless you're implying that Donkey Kong, Mario's first game, and Yoshi's Island aren't canon.

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That's the problem, you have to prove those are canon by the reps themselves.

This is the official timeline for what counts as our Mario.

Paper Mario Came in Sometime in between the sets of those games especially Mario maker of all things And Yet it's not included, neither are the spin off games.

The real cal howard said:

About the timeline:

That's clearly referring to the core games only. Unless you're implying that Donkey Kong, Mario's first game, and Yoshi's Island aren't canon.

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Can you prove your claim through scans? May I add?

Not Derailing: Also check my Infinite Universes In Sonic Post, it's snappy as heck, I had the original but it got closed Because it was too long.

It doesn't even look like a actual timeline of events that happen in the series, judging from the wording and the way it's set up it just looks like a release date timeline.

Its only chronicling the SMB series, instead of just the much broader Mario series. Again, lack of Donkey Kong in the timeline, or any game with Pauline in it. And yet Odyssey is a thing.

Dust Collector said:

It doesn't even look like a actual timeline of events that happen in the series, judging from the wording and the way it's set up it just looks like a release date timeline.

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What it looks like doesn't really matter, it's a anniversary to the Mario series, showing which ones count and which ones get representation.

It "is" what it is, the definitive scale officially shown by Nintendo And Statf themselves.

Can you get an official scan proving otherwise? If so I would concede and stand corrected, unless of course it's flawed.

The real cal howard said:

Its only chronicling the SMB series, instead of just the Mario series. Again, lack of Donkey Kong in the timeline, or any game with Pauline in it. And yet Odyssey is a thing.

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Odyssey Does Not Contradict The Main Mario Series And That Came After Mario Maker Anyway.

The Main Staff Of Super Mario Put this officially out there my guy.

The real cal howard said:

Its only chronicling the SMB series, instead of just the Mario series. Again, lack of Donkey Kong in the timeline, or any game with Pauline in it. And yet Odyssey is a thing.

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Read page 10 and the pages I mentioned of the encyclopedia I presented.

Can you prove that? That's my question.

You'd have to Prove that Original Donkey Kong Still Applies.

Super Mario World Is On The Timeline, The Yoshi Argument doesn't apply.


Also I think you just ironically answered your own question.... these are "Mario" Games.

So I quickly read through the pages you mentioned? And yeah this is clearly just chronicling the main SMB series as Cal said, most of the info they give isn't about story or their placement in the "timeline" just details about what the game added to the franchise and trivia about them.

^ Paper Mario Is A Mario. He's not in for a clear reason, he does not apply based on the timeline. So Paper Mario Can't be our Mario.

Spinoff Mario is a Mario And Much likewise Paper Mario is not on the timeline; so he cannot apply.

Dust Collector said:

So I quickly read through the pages you mentioned? And yeah this is clearly just chronicling the main SMB series as Cal said, most of the info they give isn't about story or their placement in the "timeline" just details about what the game added to the franchise and trivia about them.

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Here's a page https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DG6jB9PC...FoqyEo6hUWuKyeThCi7KxgCHMYCw/s1600/RCO014.jpg

Read *How This Book Is Organized*: "each of the seventeen official games in the super Mario series"

Pages 16 and up describe the stories and etc and I read everything a month ago.

For More Read "The Mario Family" In Pages 14-15

Okay No. Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels is Official, Yet the other games are not.

Do you know what official means?

of┬Àfi┬Àcial /ə╦êfiSHəl/Submit

adjective 1. relating to an authority or public body and its duties, actions, and responsibilities. "the governor's official engagements" synonyms: ceremonial, formal, solemn, ceremonious; More noun 1. a person holding public office or having official duties, especially as a representative of an organization or government department. "a union official"


It relates to authority and the status quo.

I'm just going to open the thread real quick to address every point.

First of all, those "Timelines" aren't specifically talking about the canonicity, they're specifically referring to the evolution of the Super Mario Bros series. Reason only the platformers are mentioned and nothing else. And the rest of those links are fan made videos and don't contribute anything at all.

As for the actual canon; it's been discussed numerous times but I'll say it again. Mario doesn't technically have a primary canon; Miyamoto describes the characters as being more like actors. The Main Super Mario series is their career job where as the various sports are basically what the characters do during weekends, holidays, vacations, ect. Every Mario game published by Nintendo it technically canon. Except for the Educational/DOS, CDI Games, ect. But Platformers, Sports, Party games, RPGs, Yoshi, Wario, Donkey Kong, and Paper Mario games are all canon. And their are countless references to each other back and forth to suggest Paper Mario being canon as well; Paper Jam mostly just has Paper Mario being a seperate character as a gag. Kind of like how Bowser and Dry Bowser appear in the same game.

To further elaborate this, the Toad Brigade in Color Splash outright references them being the same from the galaxy games. And Goombella when she first meets Mario references Mario's previous games as if they're connected. And the references and connections don't end their at all. And regardless, the fact that Mario and Paper Mario fought side by side in Paper Jam does show that they'd scale to each other in tier and speed regardless if the split continuities. But the fact is, the continuities are connected which further proves the validity of the current ratings.

I said what was needed, so now I shall close this thread back up.