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Connor (Assassin's Creed) vs Geralt of Rivia

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Geralt mindhaxes. It's in character for Geralt to end battles with Axii before they begin and the speed advantage gives him enough time to do just that.
 
CPhoenixstorm9 said:
Geralt mindhaxes. It's in character for Geralt to end battles with Axii before they begin and the speed advantage gives him enough time to do just that.
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Connor had Resistance again Mind Manipulation.
 
Didn't notice that. Alright. I don't see the Apple in his standard equipment so that won't be a problem for Geralt.

What does 9-A Connor usually start with then? I see summoning, flight and invisibility in his abilities, that could be troublesome for Geralt.
 
Mindrape won't work on Connor, so Unless Jerry blitzes and oneshots before Connot smacks him with his animal powah he ain't winning
 
What about Piercing Cold then? Or Quen? Would Connor be able to get through Quen while also taking half of the damage he deals back.
 
Should i give Connor the Ring of Eden to make more balance the fight?
 
The Ring of Eden is a Shard of Eden, he has it by default. It is listed in his profile.

EDIT: Nevermind, this key doesn't have it at all, you can't even give it to him.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
The Ring of Eden is a Shard of Eden, he has it by default. It is listed in his profile.
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Are you sure? His "The Tyranny of King Washington" Key states that he lack the Ring of Eden.
 
Can someone explain to me how Connor's Flight and Summoning work? Invisibility won't be too useful due to Geralt's enhanced senses.
 
Connor turns into some animals, a bird for example and flies, and a bear to hulk smash etc.

Sine Gerry won't know that his mindrape won't work, Connor's gonna assassinate him via his animal powah as he was trained to kill with one hit, cuz assassins and all...
 
In anycase, i think i will add the Ring of Eden so that Connor can fight at his best.
 
@Konaguma You keep implying Connor has the AP advantage, what is his AP compared to that of Geralt? Geralt's is .023 Tons.

@Stefano Are you even allowed to do that, given the key explicitly states he doesn't have it? Summoning doesn't seem to be too much of a problem if it's just wolves, turning into an Eagle won't help him much as Geralt can just shoot him out of the Sky via Crossbow.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
@Stefano Are you even allowed to do that, given the key explicitly states he doesn't have it?
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Pretty sure this can be allowed.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
@Konaguma You keep implying Connor has the AP advantage, what is his AP compared to that of Geralt? Geralt's is .023 Tons.
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Connor is small building to building while Gerry is only small building. Plus Gerry won't relly on his ap off the bat while Connor will. He is gonna basically attack him with the bear hulk smash and put him in a critical state. I don't really agree geralt being small building as far as dura goes, he himself was almost killed by a peasant with a pitchfork and other humane measn but ehh.
 
Konaguna said:
Connor is small building to building while Gerry is only small building. Plus Gerry won't relly on his ap off the bat while Connor will. He is gonna basically attack him with the bear hulk smash and put him in a critical state. I don't really agree geralt being small building as far as dura goes, he himself was almost killed by a peasant with a pitchfork and other humane measn but ehh.
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And Connor had be nearly killed by standard bullets, but i don't see it a valid reason to downgrade his durability.
 
I mean, dura is pretty varied, while they might be able to tank force attacks, piercing attacks seem to be more effective
 
The 9-A version is being used. Besides that, if he goes for the kill immedietly he gets a taste of Quen reflecting 50% of his attack back at him.
 
I vote for Geralt via Greater skill, Quen reflection, Statistics Amping via Potions, Yrden further increasing the speed gap and his higher speed giving him enough time to cast these things.
 
I'm not going to say who i think is going to win the fight, but i would say how i think the battle would most likely play out.

Initially it would be a direct fight and having them comparable in physical stats would make the battle last for quite a while, but on the long run Connor would likely understand that the outcome is more in favour of Geralt (for the reasons stated by Phoenix, although Connor isn't going to be beat down that easily not with his full equipment, weaponry and extra abilities from his DLC version).

At that point Connor would probably chance tactic, using his skills as an assassin to sneak around him and strike with his hidden blade when Geralt is at his most vulnerable, while staying out of range, but its difficult to say if this could work with an expert hunter like the white wolf.

This fight could turn into a hide-and-seek game.
 
The problem there being Geralt's enhanced senses, kinda similar to Eagle Vision in a way, he can even sense people's heartbeats to tell if they're lying, he even said that you can't sneak up on a Witcher, if the fight even gets that far that is, given how Connor will be at a significant Speed Disadvantage thanks to Yrden's Speed Reduction, Geralt might finish him off before he gets the chance to go stealthy.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
The problem there being Geralt's enhanced senses, kinda similar to Eagle Vision in a way, he can even sense people's heartbeats to tell if they're lying, he even said that you can't sneak up on a Witcher, if the fight even gets that far that is, given how Connor will be at a significant Speed Disadvantage thanks to Yrden's Speed Reduction, Geralt might finish him off before he gets the chance to go stealthy.
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But the Yrden work only in a limited AoE and is unlikely Geralt would be able to oneshot Connor, he native american is not going to fall to the same trick the second time in a road, the moment he see Geralt use the Yrden after the first time he would know what he is going to do and stay out of range.

And Connor had at disposal a few tricks to escape an hide like becoming a eagle to fly away, summon wolves as a distraction, or use his invisibility.
 
Also if i'm remember correctly its possible in AC3 to sneak around wolves, bears, rabbits, deers, foxes, cougars and etc. without them detecting Connor or only at the last moment when he is only less than a meter away from them, so Enhanced Senses may not be enough.
 
The question is, would Connor be able to get out of the Yrden AoE before getting chopped to bits by the vastly faster Geralt? He's already faster and Yrden would increase that difference greatly, Geralt would get multiple clean hits on Connor before he could get out of Yrden. If he turns into an Eagle he gets sniped by Geralt's Crossbow, Wolves are an absolute joke to Geralt and Invisibility won't do much due to Geralt's enhanced senses. That along with Quen, Aard, Piercing Cold, higher skill/experience, Low-Mid Regen (Which i only just now noticed) as well as Stat Amping with Potions give Geralt the win here.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
The question is, would Connor be able to get out of the Yrden AoE before getting chopped to bits by the vastly faster Geralt? He's already faster and Yrden would increase that difference greatly
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That's very questionable since Geralt is Transonic while Connor is At least Subsonic+.

I mean, i doubt Geralt is even 2 times faster than Connor.
 
That's very questionable since Geralt is Transonic while Connor is At least Subsonic+.

I mean, i doubt Geralt is even 2 times faster than Connor.

I mean, he is still faster, Geralt is around Mach 1 whereas Connor is ?

Yrden increases the gap.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
If he turns into an Eagle he gets sniped by Geralt's Crossbow, Wolves are an absolute joke to Geralt and Invisibility won't do much due to Geralt's enhanced senses.
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Can Geralt snipe something like an Eagle? One thing is hit a Griffon which is much larger than a human, another is to hit an eagle with is much smaller and that can move fast.

Yes, the wolves aren't going to be a big threat for Geralt but they can still work well as an distaction, since Geralt would need fist to kill them before taking care of Connor.
 
He can hit Dettlaff with it, unless your eagle is above Mach 1, probably. Wolves will get oneshot by anything Geralt does.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
He can hit Dettlaff with it, unless your eagle is above Mach 1, probably.
Wolves will get oneshot by anything Geralt does.
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Dettlaff its an human size vampire, its not as big as an eagle.

And maybe Connor isn't Mach 1 in his Eagle Form but he should still possess the same reflexes as an human, so him dodging crossbow's blows shouldn't be impossible when he is capable to react to bullets.

Yes, but again there are more than one and they would still slow Geralt down.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
I mean, he is still faster, Geralt is around Mach 1 whereas Connor is ?
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According to wikipedia, even the slowest musket and flintlock pistol shots could travel at 250 m/s or Mach 0.729
 
Yes, but Dettlaff is faster. Hitting a smaller, slower moving target shouldn't be too much of a problem. The wolves would get oneshot, as i said, they would barely slow him down at all and honestly, i don't think Connor will get a chance to escape Yrden to begin with and if he does, he'll likely be heavily injured and weakened. Either way, you haven't really presented a way for him to kill Geralt, he resists Poison and can dodge bullets and throwing knives, not to mention his Low-Mid Regen.
 
Phoenixstorm9 said:
Either way, you haven't really presented a way for him to kill Geralt, he resists Poison and can dodge bullets and throwing knives, not to mention his Low-Mid Regen.
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I was never debating about how Connor would win, but how the fight would play out.
 
Geralt FRA. Mainly for Quen and because sneaking won't work. Btw, since Geralt's medallion hums near magical energy, won't it alert him whenever Connor sneaks close with the Ring/Shard of Eden?
 
TacticalNuke002 said:
Geralt FRA. Mainly for Quen and because sneaking won't work. Btw, since Geralt's medallion hums near magical energy, won't it alert him whenever Connor sneaks close with the Ring/Shard of Eden?
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The Ring of Eden is not magic, its advance technology.

Also, in AC3 isn't possible to sneak around animals such as wolves and bears and take them out of surprise? Would that prove that Connor had the chance to sneaking around Geralt?
 
He isn't sneaking regardless.

Geralt can easily detect higher vampires who can turn invisible, are extremely silent and don't trigger his medallion. His enhanced senses also let him hear the smallest sounds from hundreds of metres away.
 
I just found something interesting on Wikipedia.

The muskets from Connor's time were said to wield Supersonic speeds rather easily.

I'll have to research more tho.

EDIT: Nah, it's Subsonic+, but Connor does dodge it at point-blank range rather easily.
 
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