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The President vs The Thing

ApiesDeathbyLazors

ApiesDeathbyLazors

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A battle of characters who's names are "The" followed by a vauge descriptor. The Leader vs The Creature. One's magic, the other's an alien. I just hope this is as interesting as I think it could be.

The fight takes place on the 58th floor of your typical office building. The power is out and a huge thunder storm rages outside. The Thing has managed to assimilate three fodder office workers, but is divided into dozens of smaller forms and is hunting the President, who currently stands in a rather large confrence room.

Speed is Equalized and win via any means possible.

The President

The Thing
 
I really like how you set up the scenario in the OP.

Honestly, since they don't have anywhere near the AP to take out the President's employees, they'd likely be overrun at first. Then, once The Thing starts regenerating and trying to take over the President's employees, I feel he'd go for time stop into his mask. Considering the AP advantage the President has, one or two employees would be plenty to hold them off.
 
Thanks, in my mind Thing matches don't reall work if you just plop the Thing right in front of it's opponent. I have to ask what is the mask? Also any skin contact for the President or his employees means death. Maybe not right away, but eventually as the Thing only needs a single cell to assimilate someone.
 
I'm not actually sure if they can take over the President's mind. The President could honestly just kill himself and be reborn, though that's likely OOC. But he's a combination of minds, an amalgam, so taking over his mind is no simple task.

The mask lets him add people to his company through brainwashing. He could purchase the area with his incantation, time stop, and put the mask on the guy to add him to his company. He should be able to produce multiple masks, in the event that The Thing has assimilated multiple people.
 
It's actually not mind-hax for the Thing. Assimilation begins when a Thing cell devours another organisim's cells. It then integrates the new genetic material and copies the devoured cell and begins dividing as normal repeating the prosses over and over exponetialy. It's a form of Biological Possession and therefore you'd have to have resistance to Biological Manipulation not Mind Manipulation. Speaking of Mind Manip, we've concluded on multiple threads that it sorta resists it. You could probably mind control the whole but the Thing would probably break apart until the mind control itself breaks and since cells are mindless and can't be MCed it always has an out for Mind Manip.
 
How can the thing break apart if it can't tell its body to do such because it's no longer 8n control of his mind?

The possession thing makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
 
Litentric Teon said:
How can the thing break apart if it can't tell its body to do such because it's no longer 8n control of his mind?
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So think of the Thing not as a singular entity but as a colony of single celled entities, and cells cannot be mindhaxed because their mindless. You can mindhax the Thing's collective "mind" but, as the popular saying goes, that "mind is about as important to the Thing as our pinkie toe is for us and the individual cells would just act to preserve themselves and break down into what ever form resist the current mindfukery is attacking it. To be fair we came to that conclusion here and mindhaxing never shows up in any official Thing media.
 
Ah, gotcha, thank you.

In that case, I don't think the President has a legitimate win con here. His AP is hard countered by The Thing's Regen, and none of his hax is effective. Unlike Hwan, The President doesn't have EE or Void manipulation, having to rely on time manipulation, mind hax, and gravity manip. None of which actually does anything here. The fight would likely last for a while, but unless The President can recruit someone with the necessary hax, I don't see him having a way to win here.
 
Pretty sure fire, or simply putting the thing into somewhere it can't escape from (like a a mana barrier or just have some employees fight it while it buys an ID that is hard to escape from) would be a win con.
 
Does it have a weakness to flame?

No one in the verse BFR's though. I suppose given enough time, The President might try it, but it's super unlikely.
 
Weaknesses: Weak to fire and acid, but can survive large explosions with enough mass. Smaller masses of cells can often only behave instinctually and will attempt to survive even to the detriment of the larger whole. The Thing cannot mimic plant cells, and if someone has implants/non-organic parts, it won't be able to correctly copy the body part that contains them. It tends to go dormant in extremely low temperatures, but has no other adverse effects
 
Oh, that's nice. Thank you. Don't some of the President's employees use fire?

Then again, does that weakness stop the regen? If it doesn't, then I mean, the point above would still stand.
 
Fire, acid and Lightning (I should probably add that to weaknesses) are all effective methods, and in some cases the only method, for destroying the Thing. Infact the main reason I thought this fight would work is because I saw Fire and Lightning manip on Presi's page.

A good way to think about the Thing's regen is like this:

So long as the Thing has enough usable mass, ie: enough cells are left undamaged to still function, then it will just pull itself back togather into what ever form will help the most. Let's take the surviving explosions thing as an example. When said Thing was caught in said explosion, all outer layers were utterly destroyed with no hope of regen, but because it was able to consentrate it's hide into a harder surface, an inner core was able to survive and begin assimilating people again.
 
Ah, that's interesting.

Yeah, some of the employees do use fire and lightning manip. I don't think any of them used acid, and many of them can induce explosions.

I'm not sure if The Thing would be able to withstand any fire or lightning based attacks due to the AP advantage. So it seems like The President will be one shotting to try to kill The Thing before it can assimilate any mass.

I really need to look at profiles much more closely, lol. I completely missed the weaknesses part.
 
I think that while the fire makes this not a stomp, as the Thing is separated, the Thing will likely be able to pull out a win with difficulty.

Correct me if I am wrong, but with three office workers and multiple smaller forms all around the office, more workers would fall and be assimilated than not. I'm not as confident on my President knowledge, but I think he'd end up being overrun by Things after a majority of his men get more or less assassinated throughout the office.

Thing, with difficulty.
 
I mean, the moment people realize there is a problem, they make a pocket dimension right away, and everybody raelizes that there is a problem due to that right away. Plus, if it's fodders that get assimilated first, they would be faced with guys on an entire tier above them, and capable of using stuff that would kill them. Not sure myself, but I feel that saying that fire is the only thing that keeps this from being a stomp is just wrong.
 
Ah, that is true.

This might be pretty close, then. You seem to know a lot about President- Could you elaborate on what he might do, given the scenario? I don't think hiding in the pocket dimension is a valid strategy forever, as that's more or less self-BFR.

Edit: This might be one of THOSE battles, where each character's information about the other is important to the outcome. If so, OP might need to clarify exactly what President knows about The Thing and it's presence in the office.
 
The president in this case would create a pocket dimension and teleport both the thing and itself in there, for the simple fact that it would be killed by gaia if it used magic in the real world.

From that point on, it would likely view the thing as one of the monsers spawned by negativity and try to just kill it. From there, it depends on whenver or not the president uses something that woulds actually kill it or not.
 
Would President be able to teleport all of the separate Things, if he doesn't know all of their exact locations? And if he only teleports some of them, is that half BFR?

Also, what methods does President usually begin battle with, anyways? After they are in the pocket dimension, that is.
 
Should be, the barriers force anything that gaia doesn't view as normal in them, doubt the thing would fit in the real world by her standard.

Thing is, it has several bodies, each with a different style. Varies from exploaions, fire, electricity, shadows, tornadoes etc. each.
 
Interesting. Well, in a straight 1v1 fight, I think President would out-AP. I didn't consider the pocket dimension- my bad. However, I reckon that considering the OP said the entire point was not putting The Thing directly in front of the enemy, some battle specifications might change so Thing doesn't get Pocket Dimensioned + AP blitzed.

So, @Apies, did you consider the pocket dimension when making this fight? Since that's going to kinda defeat the purpose of what you set up.
 
Yea, but I originally thought it would stay in the office building, where they don't know where and who each Thing is completely. Dump all of them in one spot, and yes, it's a tad bit easier to kill them. Leaning towards an AP Stomp due to the pocket dimension.
 
Regardless, the President's knowledge on the Thing's abilities and numbers would help, so OP, specify that if you may.
 
Right, but depending on how the pocket dimension works (Will all the Things just be dumped together?), The Thing night never have a chance to sneak attack or overwhelm TP.
 
Pocket Dimension creates a city wide mirror reality that can be changed to some extent to the casters will (time dilatation, make the place into a plain or cave or whatever else they wish, force others in).
 
Seems like Pocket Dimension and turning it into a Plains ***** over most of what The Thing could do. If it hides, remove the grass. Turn the dirt to stone. Without being able to hide or sneak attack, they get AP blitzed.
 
I have a bad habbit of just skimming profiles and when I saw Fire and Lightning manip I was like "**** it! Let's do it." If the President can just reality manip the Thing into the open then this would be an AP stomp with fire manip. The Thing is by nature an ambush predator and has consistently shown to be kinda inept with open conflict. I guess the question is how easily can the President and his lackies find the Thinglets?
 
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