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Seiya has no defense against being warped to another time period to my knoledge, or absorbed, or mind controlled to my knowledge. All of which are done without having to engage in close combat. In fact he can do these while safely in another dimension or timeline, so speed equalized I don't see how Seiya can win actually.Coleworld12 said:As for the speed equalized round he still bypasses his durability and atomizes Seiya is high universal so he's hardly doing anything to him
Strength has nothing to do with it, its a hax. Also Dmeigra absorbed Toki Toki, a being that can create time and timelines, and he became a god that way, we even see other characters like Buu absorb stronger fighters than himself. So that does not make sense to say it won't work on Seiya because he's strogner.Coleworld12 said:First of all being absorbed is not happening when Seiya is literally infinitely stronger.Secondly resisting mind control or having your senses removed are things common while having mere 7th sense let alone godly power.Thirdly Seiya returning from another dimension is nothing special bronze saints are capable of that like ikki has
Agreed, non blood lusted Demigra certainly takes it. And even the blitz scenario from blood lusted I am sceptical about, given Demigra speed is mftl+, at least across universal levels scaling from Berrus and Whis feat of going from time nest back to Beerus castle and back to the time nest again during the Demigra battle, but not 100% known. If the below feat winds up being accurate for him then Demigra might be as fast or faster than Seiya tbh. http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=220982DeezNuts1102 said:From what i see, Seiya indeed blitz here, but you guys are forgeting that Demigra can literally teleport to different timelines and travel through time and space. He can kill Seiya before when he's weak. Unless Seiya is actually blood-lusted or blitzing here, Demigra takes this i assume
Not by much actually, both are in the hundreds of quadrillions so they would be similar. Also I have thought of another interesting feat in Xenoverse, Whis and Beerus travel from earth outside the universe to the time nest in an instant when the kai of time returns the player to it they arrive as well around the same time, and we know they travel since they are shown to fly away after the event and kai of time is surprised to see them and didn't even want them there so she certainly did not bring them there.Coleworld12 said:Nope high end or low end of the hyperdimension feat is still faster than the high end of the feat you just linked : http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=15242
And that's a bronze cloth Seiya with 8th sense lol
1.2 Assuming it would even work on a character literally infinitely above him is ridiculous NFL as far as I'm concerned.
3.Link to no wormholes or portals demigra teleporting?
4.Yeah I agree on that
5.Thanatos fired a blast that travelled the same distance as Seiya but in way less time but that's not even needed in this case.
It is because the mod weren't convinced ythat Demigra would do it with his powers but rather due to the after effect of destroying the Time Vault among other stuffs. Also, please avoid the subject, before the thread gets off tracks.Frenchie-123 said:oh i didn't know there is a demigra profile , cuz antvasima disagreed with the creation of demira profile
"3-A" wait didn't demigra was going to destroy the time vault ( multiple timeline )
and destroying a timeline is 2C so ...............
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=220982 This is the speed feat that is so high for the god level fighters, but were waiting for it to happen in the anime to scale for super. Note even that calc is low end since they assume that cahmpa and vados are on the edge of the universe closest to the kaioshin realm, when they could have been anywhere in the universe.Reppuzan said:I'm not really familiar with DB Super or Xenoverse, but what is this speed feat everyone keeps talking about? By our current less we have Whis listed in the hundred billion c range due to crossing five galaxies in 35 minutes. Then you're telling me that he flew to the edge of the universe in seconds? That doesn't make sense.
Nah, he can still bfr, it appears right on top them and teleports them away, seiya wont know its coming or what it is and can't just avoid it like a projectile or something, its teleportation, or wormholes.Coleworld12 said:1.They were literally in his vincinity and it took time so no BFR since hes got same speed as seiya.
2.Nope claiming a character can magically control a being infinitely stronger than him is ridiculous.
But you have convinced me Demigra has the higher probability of winning round 1 but he doesnt stand a chance in the second one.
Xenoverse is a game, so it's not considered canon in this wiki. As for speed tbh its hard to say, in the super manga they have speed equaling seiya cast at least by that feat, it has yet to happen in super anime, but likely will this saga, and in xenoverse itself like I said the gods like Beerus and Whis can travel through the universe and even timelines all the way outside the universe to another dimension, toki toki city in an instant, so personally I think that speed is consistent with Xenoverse especially, and I think speed should be similar in this battle.Reppuzan said:Is Xenoverse part of the main canon though? I mean, he hasn't been shown doing this in any other form of media, right? Consistency is a must to avoid outliers.
No, if that were the case we both agree dmeigra would certainly win as seiya can't reach him, but I am saying Demigra will leave the battle field in an instant with teleportation if we forced him to start there, and would take charge of the battle from another timeline with duplicates and hax, and Seiya has no way to beat that as you yourself have admitted once he leaves the timeline.Coleworld12 said:1,2,3
Are you speculating that demigra starts off somewhere far away safe from harm or something?
Likewise they is no evidence to his mind control working on beings which have a gap of infinity between them....
4.Is a nope seiya is clearly faster then him even in bronze cloth 8th sense let alone whatever speed he has in God cloth 9th sense awakened.He can blitz and one shot him via atomic destruction.
As for the last part well i dont see how thats supposed to help him if hes already blitzed and stomped unless the op stated otherwise regarding the distance but even then i still dont see that happening.