Seiya has no defense against being warped to another time period to my knoledge, or absorbed, or mind controlled to my knowledge. All of which are done without having to engage in close combat. In fact he can do these while safely in another dimension or timeline, so speed equalized I don't see how Seiya can win actually.Coleworld12 said:
Strength has nothing to do with it, its a hax. Also Dmeigra absorbed Toki Toki, a being that can create time and timelines, and he became a god that way, we even see other characters like Buu absorb stronger fighters than himself. So that does not make sense to say it won't work on Seiya because he's strogner.Coleworld12 said:
Agreed, non blood lusted Demigra certainly takes it. And even the blitz scenario from blood lusted I am sceptical about, given Demigra speed is mftl+, at least across universal levels scaling from Berrus and Whis feat of going from time nest back to Beerus castle and back to the time nest again during the Demigra battle, but not 100% known. If the below feat winds up being accurate for him then Demigra might be as fast or faster than Seiya tbh. http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=220982DeezNuts1102 said:
Not by much actually, both are in the hundreds of quadrillions so they would be similar. Also I have thought of another interesting feat in Xenoverse, Whis and Beerus travel from earth outside the universe to the time nest in an instant when the kai of time returns the player to it they arrive as well around the same time, and we know they travel since they are shown to fly away after the event and kai of time is surprised to see them and didn't even want them there so she certainly did not bring them there.Coleworld12 said:
It is because the mod weren't convinced ythat Demigra would do it with his powers but rather due to the after effect of destroying the Time Vault among other stuffs. Also, please avoid the subject, before the thread gets off tracks.Frenchie-123 said:
http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?bt=220982 This is the speed feat that is so high for the god level fighters, but were waiting for it to happen in the anime to scale for super. Note even that calc is low end since they assume that cahmpa and vados are on the edge of the universe closest to the kaioshin realm, when they could have been anywhere in the universe.Reppuzan said:
Nah, he can still bfr, it appears right on top them and teleports them away, seiya wont know its coming or what it is and can't just avoid it like a projectile or something, its teleportation, or wormholes.Coleworld12 said:
Xenoverse is a game, so it's not considered canon in this wiki. As for speed tbh its hard to say, in the super manga they have speed equaling seiya cast at least by that feat, it has yet to happen in super anime, but likely will this saga, and in xenoverse itself like I said the gods like Beerus and Whis can travel through the universe and even timelines all the way outside the universe to another dimension, toki toki city in an instant, so personally I think that speed is consistent with Xenoverse especially, and I think speed should be similar in this battle.Reppuzan said:
No, if that were the case we both agree dmeigra would certainly win as seiya can't reach him, but I am saying Demigra will leave the battle field in an instant with teleportation if we forced him to start there, and would take charge of the battle from another timeline with duplicates and hax, and Seiya has no way to beat that as you yourself have admitted once he leaves the timeline.Coleworld12 said:
