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Kessler vs. Sirzechs

it was for the "strongest doe" unequalize speed...i dare you to say kessler still wins after that.

Speed blitzes can't be added. Besides, Emperor was counted for 4-B even though Titan blitzes. This isn't any different.
 
I mean Speed Unequal either Kessler blitzes or Luiver blitzes

Also, Kessler one shots from Kilometers away due to his massive AP and range advantage
 
Gargoyle One said:
I mean Speed Unequal either Kessler blitzes or Luiver blitzes
Also, Kessler one shots from Kilometers away due to his massive AP and range advantage
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Luci blitzes hard. He's far above sub relativistic (and i mean like his AP it's possible to get upgraded)

Sirzechs doesn't care about AP.

Sirzechs also 1 shots.

He doesn't have range advantage. As i explained country wide range.

@Wright Way they can be added in "the strongest" which is why some have "speed equalized" and "speed unequalized"
 
But also according to you, characters have enough time to run up and try to punch him before he acts.
 
And yet he's also possibly MHS.

He will when he gets hit with an attack that makes him explode

He has one attack that can, any attack other then that gets tanked, dodged or outranged.

Yet more of this stuff that isn't on his profile...
 
The Wright Way said:
>Country wide range
Not on his profile. Which means you can't use it.
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"several kilometers with PoD' is on his profile. This is sba so the range is 4km as a base, though this dude could destroy all of japan.

He only needs 4km for this fight, the rest (country wide) is just an extra he doesn't need.
 
Several kilometers doesn't automatically equal country wide range. Could just barely be the starting distance for all we know.
 
Gargoyle One said:
And yet he's also possibly MHS.
He will when he gets hit with an attack that makes him explode

He has one attack that can, any attack other then that gets tanked, dodged or outranged.

Yet more of this stuff that isn't on his profile...
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"Likely sub relativistc" Which can be used.

"make him explode" The dude is literal energy.

"has one attack that can" Literally his only attack that can be used for "killing" or "destruction". That's like saying "kharn only has 1 type of power null", yes 1 type though that's the issue, that 1 type.

SBA range = 4km. 4km is within Sirzechs' range. "Large Island Level" reffers to "japan". Satan class beings and above can destroy all of Japan and this dude is at least 10x above satan class beings in terms of power.
 
Several kilometers isn't anywhere near country.

That's one ability he doesn't lead with and he gets one shotted by anything Kessler does.
 
You know OP can just decide to start them outside the range of any sort of passives right?
 
Wokistan said:
You know OP can just decide to start them outside the range of any sort of passives right?
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It already outside of his in character passive. We'r discussing about Sirzechs full range.

@Gargoyle

Sirzechs' profile = several kilometers with PoD

Kessler's profile = Range: Several Kilometers with powers

Kessler outranges

kek
 
If it's out of his passive, Kessler just lightning bolts and AP does the rest.
 
Wokistan said:
If it's out of his passive, Kessler just lightning bolts and AP does the rest.
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Sirzechs is not an object doe. Sirzechs can just actively erase him if he's outside of the passive range.

Also lighting bolts. There are several problems with that:

1. Sirzechs is literal freaking energy. What will a lighting bolt do?

2. Kessler attacking him with something that wont be erased on going near sirzechs when?
 
Wokistan said:
If it's out of his passive, Kessler just lightning bolts and AP does the rest.
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^This is pretty much my vote for Kessler

Unless he uses POD off the bat which he won't he gets one shotted

Every other attack has much shorter range so yeah
 
Gargoyle One said:
^This is pretty much my vote for Kessler

Unless he uses POD off the bat which he won't he gets one shotted

Every other attack has much shorter range so yeah
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He won't because? Also Kessler has to attack him with something that will work on energy, so it will take a bunch of tries before he understands that.
 
Gargoyle One said:
He won't because he starts with wrapping, as you stated on Grimmon vs Sirzechs
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Wrapping...literally "ERASE someone".

Also this is currently a stomp. Even assuming Kessler can "beat" literal actual energy then the odds of him using the right move (assuming he can lead with anything) right off the bat is almost non existant. You need to at least give info on the character.
 
There isn't a right move for Kessler to use

Any attack one shots so he can use anything and be fine.

Oh okay so that's what wrapping is

There's still also the ball of destruction just straight up trying to run at Kessler etc.

All of that works in Kessler's favor so
 
Gargoyle One said:
There isn't a right move for Kessler to use
Any attack one shots so he can use anything and be fine.

Oh okay so that's what wrapping is

There's still also the ball of destruction just straight up trying to run at Kessler etc.

All of that works in Kessler's favor so
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"lighting bolt" Won't work. Sirzechs is not a corporeal being, he is power of destruction, which is energy (kind of anyway, it's a bit more than that, as PoD is power instead of energy, but ok).

Lighting Bolt hurting energy when?

Lighting Bolt being instant when?

He is not the type to "run at the enemy" he is a caster, he doesn't run at the enemy. If you do know any scene of him rushing at the enemy pls quote it for me, i would like to know.
 
Really? Doesn't say he's non corporal on his profile.

Since Lightning is energy in Infamous

Does it need to be

Medaka vs Lucifer says otherwise
 
Human-Shaped Aura of Destruction: Sirzechs' true form. He can convert himself into the Power of Destruction that destroys everything regardless of his will.

Energy doesn't destroy energy by default. Also lighting is electric discharge. The discharge only works on matterial objects. It is energy that runs on electrons, it doesn't "attack energy". So mute point.

Uhm...yes? Sirzechs is like sub relativistic. Coming from 4km away it'd be pretty easy to dodge you know?

Find 1 case where Sirzechs charges at his enemy.
 
That's not non corporeality, especially if he needs to activate it first

This is inFAMOUS, that's how conduit abilities interact, that's how they work

Speed is also Equal
 
Gargoyle One said:
That's not non corporeality, especially if he needs to activate it first
This is inFAMOUS, that's how conduit abilities interact, that's how they work

Speed is also Equal
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"activate" means "Sirzechs going from base to true form". This is true form sirzechs so it's already activated.

Give me proof that in inFamous energy destroys energy.
 
Pretty sure feats aren't needed. Just like you don't need proof to say that a guy who can hit souls can likely destroy souls as well.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Pretty sure feats aren't needed. Just like you don't need proof to say that a guy who can hit souls can likely destroy souls as well.
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I don't need proof for that case. I need proof or some kind of proof that "energy destroys energy". You can't just say "it happens" because that's not how real life works, so it can't be based off of real life.
 
That's not how real life works?

That's your comparison?

Moot. Energy in conduit abilities are purposely meant to interact with one another.

It happens. There ya go
 
Cause he's literally a ball of energy that destroys the body mind and soul of anything it touches which includes attacks. It wouldn't even reach Sirzechs tho due to being erased when it gets in the range of his passive EE
 
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