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MHS+ Bleach Soul Society Arc

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I don't understand where MHS+ Bleach in the Soul society comes from

Ichigo scales to Byakuya and Byakuya scales to Ichigo and this is pretty much the constant theme for their speed ratings in the arc, then pretty much everyone like Gi , Aize , Kenpachi are ALL scaled off Byakuya and Ichigo who are scaled off each other with no calc or feat mentioned for any of the characters in the verse

Either we're using backward scaling i'm not aware of or the profiles are a mess

Z Soul Society
 
Massively Hypersonic+ (Blitzed three Lieutenants simultaneously and can keep up with Byakuya) Ichigo

Massively Hypersonic+ (Can react against Bankai Ichigo even though he can't keep up with him. Is one of the most proficient practitioners of Shunpo in the Gotei 13 and should therefore be at least this fast. Should also be least as fast as or faster than the likes of Toshirō Hitsugaya) Byakuya

Looks like he blitzed 3 Hypersonic people,Ichigo's profile is locked so there was likely a CRT made in the past.
 
I believe there's backward scaling because the fact lieutenant level being faster than veteran captain in just one year of timeskip is doesn't make any sense IIRC.
 
Maybe you should ask Soldier Blue and Matthew Schroeder, I believe Antvasima said they're the staff members that handle the bleach verse.
 
Soldier Blue is extremely tied up IRL at the moment, but you can check for staff members to ask to coment here in these pages: Knowledgeable Members List, Bleach (The supporters & neutral sections)
 
Okay. Should a link to the calculation be inserted into some profile for better clarification?
 
Anyway, I also seem to recall that there was some backwards scaling, due to that several hundreds of years old captains suddenly gaining drastically in speed and power didn't make much sense.
 
Yes I believe the feat is there as well for Liltotto although I noticed something strange about her profile.

Massively Hypersonic+ (Dodged Yhwach's Auswählen while also grabbing Giselle to safety) This doesn't make sense because the feat was calculated at Sub-Rel but never accepted so this rating and justification make 0 sense.

Best to leave this open.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:SchutzenDunkelZiel1217/Fodder_Speed_Calc_Revised...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Perilouss/Bleach_Calc_-_Liltotto_Dodges_the_Auswahle
 
Well, I am too overworked and uninformed to be able to straighten out this mess on my own.
 
Finally lol someone made this CRT. I swear it's so confusing looking at the profiles and the speed ratings and trying to find a calc and everything just leading you to Ichigo then to the soul reapers he fought who don't have a calc for their speed
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
I don't see anything involving databook for Ichigo's speed.
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My point stands,since that databook entry isn't used a justification from what I can see.

The linked calculations above are.
 
That databook entry is just hyperbole / being poetic.

"Like Lightning / Lightning-Fast!" are textbook figures of speech.
 
It comes from post-timeskips VCs who reacted to MHS+ Yhwach reiatsu (which was over mach 250).

It was then scaled to SS arc Byakuya's Shunpo which should still be faster than VCs' reactions.

SBK's full speed is double that (mach 500s), and Bankai Ichigo was faster than that, on top of speedblitzing Byakuya.

There's no circular reasoning here.
 
>Backwards scaling via a feat in the last arc where low-tiers react to the most powerful villain in the series

>Then applied to basically everyone in the Soul Society arc

I hope you can see the problem.
 
Actually he is wrong and so are you.

That feat ranges from this,and was never actually added to any of the profiles,so there isn't actually any backwards scaling involving Yhwach to soul society arc lol.You should know this since you were an active debater in the thread linked above about this exact same question.

Low End: Mach 28915.634 (3.3%SoL, Sub Relativistic)

Lower Middle End: Mach 72289.086 (8.2% SoL, Sub Relativistic+)

Middle End: Mach 133578.172 (16.4% SoL, Relativistic)

High End: Mach 435715.444 (49.5% SoL, Relativistic)
 
That actually makes this worse and means that no one knows where the rating come from a which is the point of this thread.


Like last time this was discussed it seriously can make a person head hurt lol. It's too confusing
 
I seriously don't like how were taking something from the final arc and just assuming SS Byakuya's Shunpo should (not definite, but should) be superior.

It's an assumption ontop of another assumption.
 
So does somebody here have any suggestions for how we should solve this problem and lessen the confusion for our visitors?
 
Okay. Would that be an acceptable solution for the rest of you?
 
^ One thing with that calc: the 13 miles distance is from Karakura, and probably not from where the shinigami were at. So the distance should be larger and so is the speed, but it's good for a low-end.
 
Is 13 Miles from where they are in Fake Karakura Town as the manga focus on their reiatsu reaching all the way there and killing the Hollows next to the spirit girl.
 
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