Some Bleach additions

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Hello everyone, I re-watched bleach TYBW and thought there were some things that needed to be added

1. A power null for Quilge
Yes, it is said that after Quilge imprisoned Ichigo with his "Jail" ability, his Reiatsu was no longer felt in Soul Society, so not only his body but also his Reiatsu was sealed.

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

While Ichigo is trapped in the depths of Garganta due to his Jail ability, he is aware of what is happening in Soul Society. You can say "he did this thanks to the phone", but his phone conversation takes place in episode 5 and he only hears screams, the scenes I added are from episode 6. Many people fall into this misconception.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Hello everyone, I re-watched bleach TYBW and thought there were some things that needed to be added

1. A power null for Quilge
Yes, it is said that after Quilge imprisoned Ichigo with his "Jail" ability, his Reiatsu was no longer felt in Soul Society, so not only his body but also his Reiatsu was sealed.

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

While Ichigo is trapped in the depths of Garganta due to his Jail ability, he is aware of what is happening in Soul Society. You can say "he did this thanks to the phone", but his phone conversation takes place in episode 5 and he only hears screams, the scenes I added are from episode 6. Many people fall into this misconception.

Number 2 sounds like a weakness of the ability.

I agree with number 3 but that's been discussed and denied before. Neutral on 1.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Number 2 sounds like a weakness of the ability.

That's why I set it to "Limited". Characters who will receive resistance can resist it just because they are quincy.

I agree with number 3 but that's been discussed and denied before.

Since more than 3 months have passed since this issue has been discussed, I think there is no problem in reopening it.

 

[Valeska24]

This dude was banned for 1 month and as soon as he came back and opened CRT

Anyway agreed

 

[CryptonBestDbFan]

It seems reasonable, I agree.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

This dude was banned for 1 month and as soon as he came back and opened CRT

Anyway agreed

 

[Benimōru]

1. A power null for Quilge

Disagree with this. We don't know whether it is precisely because he nulled Ichigo's reiatsu or whether it is simply because his reiatsu cannot leave the place where he is sealed. And Quilge can't use it like PN anyway.

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

I'm not sure that would exactly count as resistance. So, count me as neutral.

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

Neutral on this too.

 

[Valeska24]

I'm not sure that would exactly count as resistance. So, count me as neutral.

Yhwach directly associates this with Quincy genes, indicating that Quincys have an advantage over this trait. If Ichigo had done it another way, what you said might have been true, but what I said Yhwach stated this directly for Quincy traits, so it's more of a resistance

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I agree

 

[Excellence616]

Hello everyone, I re-watched bleach TYBW and thought there were some things that needed to be added

1. A power null for Quilge
Yes, it is said that after Quilge imprisoned Ichigo with his "Jail" ability, his Reiatsu was no longer felt in Soul Society, so not only his body but also his Reiatsu was sealed.

Scan is incorrect

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

While Ichigo is trapped in the depths of Garganta due to his Jail ability, he is aware of what is happening in Soul Society. You can say "he did this thanks to the phone", but his phone conversation takes place in episode 5 and he only hears screams, the scenes I added are from episode 6. Many people fall into this misconception.

I agree with this, disagree with the rest

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Disagree with this. We don't know whether it is precisely because he nulled Ichigo's reiatsu or whether it is simply because his reiatsu cannot leave the place where he is sealed. And Quilge can't use it like PN anyway.

The technique itself is for sealing purposes, I think I don't need to explain much about it because Mayuri also achieved power null in a similar way.

I'm not sure that would exactly count as resistance. So, count me as neutral.

Yhwach directly associates this with Quincy genes, indicating that Quincys have an advantage over this trait. If Ichigo had done it another way, what you said might have been true, but what I said Yhwach stated this directly for Quincy traits, so it's more of a resistance

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[Spectra_Schiffer]

Scan is incorrect

I edited

 

[Arcker123]

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

This is just a weakness of the ability. Yhwach even mentions the technique wasn't designed to trap Quincy. It just doesn't seal them, not them having resistance.

Agree with the rest though.

I agree with number 3 but that's been discussed and denied before.

The anime context changes things.

 

[Benimōru]

The technique itself is for sealing purposes, I think I don't need to explain much about it because Mayuri also achieved power null in a similar way.

There's no evidence that it's nullifying the Reiatsu. It just seals Ichigo and that's the reason why the others can't sense it.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I disagree with the first point, it's not power nullification but rather sealing the character away. That's typically how it works. Power nullification isn't necessary to cut off a connection. Ichigo didn't lose his powers inside the jail, so it doesn't qualify for that. As for the second point, it's a weakness for the jail, not for Ichigo's power nullification or sealing resistance. The third one is obviously Cosmic Awareness, so I agree with that.

 

[Bastolan27]

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

While Ichigo is trapped in the depths of Garganta due to his Jail ability, he is aware of what is happening in Soul Society. You can say "he did this thanks to the phone", but his phone conversation takes place in episode 5 and he only hears screams, the scenes I added are from episode 6. Many people fall into this misconception.

Agree with #3

 

[Arcker123]

I disagree with the first point, it's not power nullification but rather sealing the character away. That's typically how it works. Power nullification isn't necessary to cut off a connection. Ichigo didn't lose his powers inside the jail, so it doesn't qualify for that. As for the second point, it's a weakness for the jail, not for Ichigo's power nullification or sealing resistance. The third one is obviously Cosmic Awareness, so I agree with that.

It could either be limited or just note that the seals prevent sensing

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It could either be limited or just note that the seals prevent sensing

The issue is that Ichigo was able to sense the outside characters, but characters from outside couldn't sense him. It's like how you BFR a character to a different place, and others can't sense them. Others can't sense Ichigo but Ichigo senses & powers were still functioning. Therefore, I don't believe it qualifies as a powernull for sensing.

 

[Arcker123]

Yeah you're right, our current description of that on page is fine enough:

Sealing, Spatial Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (With "The Jail" - Quilge can create 'Jails' to imprison and seal his opponent. Quilge can also seal holes in space and portals[1]. Those who are sealed within Quilge's Jail can’t be sensed by others[2])

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Disagree with 1 & 2. 3 seems fine tho.

 

[AppleLord]

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

I disagree. Is more of a weakness to the Jail's hax than anything else.

 

[AppleLord]

Number 3, in the manga the phone has no signal.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Disagree with 1 & 2. 3 seems fine tho.

I have the same opinion.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Number 3, in the manga the phone has no signal.

Ok? In this case, anime clarified more things for us and prioritized canon

 

[Valeska24]

Number 3, in the manga the phone has no signal.

This doesn't mean anything

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

This doesn't mean anything

it means ichigo could sense them even when the phone was out of service

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Also, OP should add the scene where ichigo is sensing their "flame" go out. When ichigo is saying the "don't disappear" as it shows he can also sense when the people are dying.

 

[Valeska24]

it means ichigo could sense them even when the phone was out of service

What are you saying bro? I just said that the anti-arguments in the manga do not affect the anime

 

[AppleLord]

This doesn't mean anything

Ichigo could hear them in the Soul Society after the phone lost its signal. The phone prior to that had signal.

 

[AppleLord]

What are you saying bro? I just said that the anti-arguments in the manga do not affect the anime

There are no anti-arguments.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Hello everyone, I re-watched bleach TYBW and thought there were some things that needed to be added

1. A power null for Quilge
Yes, it is said that after Quilge imprisoned Ichigo with his "Jail" ability, his Reiatsu was no longer felt in Soul Society, so not only his body but also his Reiatsu was sealed.

He still had his powers which he was using to try to get out so disagree on this

2. Limited Power null and Sealing resistance for Ichigo and Quincy physiology.

According to Yhwach's explanation, Ichigo was able to escape Quilge's Jail ability simply because he is a Quincy. Since Ichigo, who has even a little bit of Quincy Reiatsu within him, got rid of the jail ability, we can assume that other Quincys can also do this and resist the haxes with the "Jail" ability.

Sure

3. Cosmic Awareness for Ichigo.

While Ichigo is trapped in the depths of Garganta due to his Jail ability, he is aware of what is happening in Soul Society. You can say "he did this thanks to the phone", but his phone conversation takes place in episode 5 and he only hears screams, the scenes I added are from episode 6. Many people fall into this misconception.

Yes

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

What are you saying bro? I just said that the anti-arguments in the manga do not affect the anime

my guy read what i said slowly with the context added.....is not an anti-argument, is a supportive argument of ichigo having CA

Ichigo on a completely different place while having no connection to the outside world could still feel them.

 

[Valeska24]

my guy read what i said slowly with the context added.....is not an anti-argument, is a supportive argument of ichigo having CA

Ichigo on a completely different place while having no connection to the outside world could still feel them.

Shit man don't you know what I mean I said it was like that,i already know what's happen the scans

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Like several others, I think the first is more sealing, not directly power nullification. The second seems like an issue with the technique and not a resistance. As for the third, I can agree with cosmic awareness.

 

[AppleLord]

Like several others, I think the first is more sealing, not directly power nullification. The second seems like an issue with the technique and not a resistance. As for the third, I can agree with cosmic awareness.

Limited cosmic awareness to seeing the reiatsu (spiritual blue body) of other beings and hearing them in another dimension.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Since two admins have approved it and it's been about 48 hours, can someone open Ichigo's profile?

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Ichigo Kurosaki (黒崎 一護, Kurosaki Ichigo?) is the son of Masaki Kurosaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Shinigami. Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Shinigami when Rukia Kuchiki...

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[Spectra_Schiffer]

Disagree with 1 & 2. 3 seems fine tho.

Like several others, I think the first is more sealing, not directly power nullification. The second seems like an issue with the technique and not a resistance. As for the third, I can agree with cosmic awareness.

Since two admins have approved it and it's been about 48 hours, can someone open Ichigo's profile?

Ichigo Kurosaki (Post-Timeskip)

Ichigo Kurosaki (黒崎 一護, Kurosaki Ichigo?) is the son of Masaki Kurosaki and Isshin Kurosaki, a Quincy with the powers of a Shinigami. Years after the death of his mother, Ichigo uses his innate spiritual awareness to help local ghosts, and unlocks his potential as a Shinigami when Rukia Kuchiki...

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[Spectra_Schiffer]

Limited cosmic awareness

bro...

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

That's a solid CA not limited.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

That's a solid CA not limited.

Yeah