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"You are already a Miracle" - Kenshiro vs Gerard
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will the pressure points work on spirits?
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Pressure points still should work Gerard, since spirits in Bleachverse are have shown to have organs and an anatomy like normal humans. The only difference is that they're spirits, but since verse equalization is on, Ken should be able touch and see Gerard.
But given his regen and his Miracles, I don't think Hokuto Shinken is enough to put Gerard down. And punching G's sword will only end badly for Ken. Though I think the status effect ailments that Hokuto can invoke (blindness, paralysis, inability to breathe, movement loss, etc) could help Kenshiro help.
Though in the end, Kenshiro's pure AP isn't enough to defeat Gerard cause of his Miracles. But at the same time, Gerard has no way past Ken's Muso Tensei. So I'm leaning towards inconclusive atm.
Though, Kenshiro has other options that don't involve AP. Kenshiro can use pressure points to erase Gerard's memory, making him forget this fight completely, or make it so that he has no control over his movements, or maybe even make it so Gerard has to obey all of Ken's orders. There's also the chance that Ken just uses his pressure points to make Gerard fall asleep, making him incapable of fighting.
Inconclusive atm
But given his regen and his Miracles, I don't think Hokuto Shinken is enough to put Gerard down. And punching G's sword will only end badly for Ken. Though I think the status effect ailments that Hokuto can invoke (blindness, paralysis, inability to breathe, movement loss, etc) could help Kenshiro help.
Though in the end, Kenshiro's pure AP isn't enough to defeat Gerard cause of his Miracles. But at the same time, Gerard has no way past Ken's Muso Tensei. So I'm leaning towards inconclusive atm.
Though, Kenshiro has other options that don't involve AP. Kenshiro can use pressure points to erase Gerard's memory, making him forget this fight completely, or make it so that he has no control over his movements, or maybe even make it so Gerard has to obey all of Ken's orders. There's also the chance that Ken just uses his pressure points to make Gerard fall asleep, making him incapable of fighting.
Inconclusive atm
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My memory of the final arc of Bleach is blurry I like to pretend it ended after the Aizen arc so I don't wanna say anything concrete
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PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
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Kenshiro can get around that though. Precog will flash the future where he turns into a giant monster so he will know to not explode him. Even if he turns into a giant monster, Ken can attack the pressure points of Tigers just fine, so it's not that problematic. Muso Tensei is also a thing.
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Keep in mind that Hokuto Shinken has worked on the inhuman giants of the wasteland, such as the Prison Demon that Ken fought, and can even work on animals like tigers. It's even worked on a Frankenstein's Monster expy who had something done to his body to make it different. So Gerard becoming gargantuan monster doesn't necessarily make him immune to pressure points.
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He gets precog from harmonizing with Raoh's soul, who got flashes of the future. He also can read someone's aura to predict their movements.
Muso Tensei can be used to erase others. He used it against one Falco's goons to simultaneously phase through his attack and erase him arm, and did the same thing to another guy, expect he erased both his arms.
He's already fought giants who tower over him (they were so big, that he fit into the palm of they're hand), and while that may not be as big as Gerard, it shows that pressure points aren't effected by size. Also, it's not limited to human anatomy.
Muso Tensei can be used to erase others. He used it against one Falco's goons to simultaneously phase through his attack and erase him arm, and did the same thing to another guy, expect he erased both his arms.
He's already fought giants who tower over him (they were so big, that he fit into the palm of they're hand), and while that may not be as big as Gerard, it shows that pressure points aren't effected by size. Also, it's not limited to human anatomy.
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But there's nothing that implies Gerard pressure points are inverted, and given Ken's numerous methods of playing keep away (intangibility, warping space around himself, precognition, instinctive reaction, etc) it's more likely that Ken eventually finds and hits his pressure points. He could also use his clones to hit Gerard from numerous spots to see where his pressure points are.
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Ah, I see. told you my Yhwach arc memory was fuzzy
Well in that case, inconclusive. Niether can kill the other. Gerard is immune to Hokuto Shinken, and Gerard can't get past Muso Tensei.
Also, his precognition gives him a flash of the future of his attacks. So when he sees a future where he hits Gerard's sword and he explodes, he's gonna do the smart thing and avoid hitting the sword.
Well in that case, inconclusive. Niether can kill the other. Gerard is immune to Hokuto Shinken, and Gerard can't get past Muso Tensei.
Also, his precognition gives him a flash of the future of his attacks. So when he sees a future where he hits Gerard's sword and he explodes, he's gonna do the smart thing and avoid hitting the sword.
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Because Kaioh was sapping his strength with his matoki while trapping him in a weightless void that cause him to develop space sickness, and even cancelled out Muso Tensei
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Hokuto Ryuken users have shown to warp space, see this thread. So yes, Kaioh warped space around Ken to make him spin, but it made him feel space sickness, which worsened the defects of ki draining, which is why Kaioh was able to defeat Ken so easily.
In their next bout, Kenshiro fought Kaioh when he had gotten even stronger than last time.
In their next bout, Kenshiro fought Kaioh when he had gotten even stronger than last time.
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But how does Gerard get past intangibility?
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Kenshiro has a healing factor, knows a pressure point that takes away his need to breathe, another one that revitalizes him, another one that amps his strength, and another one that extends his life, the data book states he can remain strong even if he goes three months without eating, and he goes without water far longer than the average human, and he fights on even after having his flesh shredded and bones crushed. So stamina is not an issue.
Remind me, what is that again
Remind me, what is that again
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<Can't hit intangibles
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Anyway inconclusive for Monkey's reasons
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Inconclusive FRA
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