. Midgard Serpent was only Planet Level lol, if Midgard= Universe so Thor must have lifted the Universe right ? None of the official handbooks has stated that, every scans and statements described Asgard as a flat, asteroid-like. Nothing in comics / guidebooks has actually showed that Asgard and other Realms really have enough condition to be considered as a Universe; the writers even wrote a Map of Asgard look like an Island/ Country lol. You guys said 9 Realms= Universes based on some.... statement feats even though they're contradict to every points/ proof before ? <(")
While too i don't think that Marvel Odin and any other Skyfather level characters should be upgraded at Low 2-C, there is still enough evidence to upgraded at 3-A.ThavinKiri2410 said:
It doesn't really matter, if the dimension is still supposed to be the size of an universe, that woud still means that affect the entirety of it would requid 3-A level of power.ThavinKiri2410 said:
Yes, the fight between Odin and Seth was never be directly stated that it was going to destroy the universe (unlike the case of Goku and Beerus), but their clash was still able to affect the entire space-time, tearing at the very fabric of the multiverse and even create a shockwave that had ripples across all plane of reality, plenty of evidence to suggest that it was a 3-A feat at least.ThavinKiri2410 said:
Actually there where several statements in the comics (at least the recent ones) where the Nine Worlds/Realms were be described as universes.ThavinKiri2410 said:9 Realms= 9 Universes and Yggdrasil= a set of countless Universes are the most non-sense fact that I've seen
Statements of Odin's omnipotence can be easily disproved via common sense, statements of the realms having universal size are much less ridiculous, not when the claim come from multiple characters that had no reason to lie or aren't know to over exaggerate.ThavinKiri2410 said:
Well, this could very well be an outlier.ThavinKiri2410 said:
Here we don't really care about the opinion of the authors.ThavinKiri2410 said:
This scaling could only be apply with Dormammu when he is outside the Dark Dimension, since his powers are weakened beyond the boundaries of his home.Tony Stark69 said:
Having a small portion of an Abstract doesn't prove that Odin must be Universal+, Juggernaut usually use a small portion of the power of Cyttorak and he isn't Skyfather level.Tony Stark69 said:
I'm not sure if we should start to consider Earth-616 to be infinite, not when Massively FTL+ characters are capable to across it.Tony Stark69 said:
This could be translated to Odin having Universal power, not necessarily Universal+ power.Tony Stark69 said:
This was be debunk by TheSandman31 in this thread, Surtur needed to store massive amounts of energy from across the Nine Worlds with the help of the Manchester Gods and he needed to release the Eternal Flame in the Otherworld, a place connect of all realities/universes in the Marvelverse.Tony Stark69 said:
Actually it was the shockwave of their energy clash which ripples across all planes of existence (which by the way are not the same as universes).Tony Stark69 said:
Uthana never casualy destroyed any universe, he was keeps his dying universe alive instead.Tony Stark69 said:
There scans prove what i have say before, that Uthana was keeping alive his dying universe, only for then be left it to die after was no longer necessary and it was never stated that the dying universe was infinite.Tony Stark69 said:
The last time Odin had to fight the Celestials he was beated badly, even with the Destroyer and been power boost by the strength of other Asgardians.Tony Stark69 said:
Sure, limitless power while he still need additional energy for all the Nine Worlds and the Otherworld for burn the entire multiverse...Tony Stark69 said:
The Yggradasil act like the foundation for the Nine Worlds, destroy the foundation and everything would collapse.Tony Stark69 said:
Having limitless potential isn't proof of 4th dimensional level of power.Tony Stark69 said:
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