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Ant-Man vs Goku
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Hmmm how far is Ant-Man into Low 2-C? So far I'm leaning towards Goku due to AP advantage and instinctive reaction.
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though doesn't ant-man cover the entire space? Though if he has no AOEs then goku can likely react due to equal strength
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He probably covers the microverse but likely not the overspace, where the cosmic entities are.
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Giant Man is large enough to casually punt and hit Goku. Though, funny enough, he'd have an astronomically better chance of shrinking down, going into Goku, and the becoming Giant Man.
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LOL though goku seems to be able to use more effective attacks now but let's wait for 129 to show up
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I vote Goku because he can react without thinking and also in the next episode he can attack without thinking. both in omen form and real form
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doesn't matter, in this fight i'm using goku as he was when he became UI for the first timeTISSG7Redgrave said:
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ant man by shrinkkiing and then putting his full size ''inside ''goku
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I still vote for goku via not moving without thinking. You watch the episode and he was moving and attacking, dodging, and defending withhout thinking.
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that helps him defeat an enemy who is smaller to ant mans extenct how?Errorsaness said:
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why, since when could he sense such small things ?and hes ui aint adapting that fastRoyGundam said:
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though he does react automatically he doesn't rely on eyes at all
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i think Ricsi is reffering to the ability of ant-man to shrink to a sub-atomic sizeTISSG7Redgrave said:
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Does Antman even do that whole, growing from the inside thing in character? Even if he does, Goku can sense him and prevent him from getting inside by flying away or teleporting.
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omen doesent really do thatTheglassman12 said:
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I...think he does, though I could be thinking of the Atom.
About Goku sensing him, he didn't do so hot at first against the much larger (lol) bug dude in the ToP, so not sure how that's gonna hold up.
About Goku sensing him, he didn't do so hot at first against the much larger (lol) bug dude in the ToP, so not sure how that's gonna hold up.
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Goku has experience fighting larger enemies, not to mention he did that whole "go inside the enemy to attack them there" trick on piccolo, so he'll know what Antman is gonna do.
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@Ricsi do you have proof that he doesn't use IT when it's the same person that uses IT numerous times?
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Wasn't it stated multiple times that some of these characters either have unsensable ki or just hide their ki intentionally?The real cal howard said:
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They had unsensable ki.
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The bug dude actually didn't hide his ki, and both, Goku and the much smarter Piccolo fell to his tactics of just...being...small. ovo
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Then he just had unsensable Ki. Size does not hide ki signatures.
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And goku has experience fighting small creatures, so he'll know what to do and what not to do.
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nowhere nearas small as ant manTheglassman12 said:
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Nah, the bug had very sensible ki. They just thought he was invisible. Ant Man's much smaller than a bug at his smallest.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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What's stopping Goku from well punching the group, nuking the area, dodging, etc, etc.
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@Ricsi and how does that undo any points for goku when like I said, he knows what to do against small creatures?
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mostly that he wouldent destroy new york
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What does him being in New York have anything to do with the fact that Goku can't just nuke the place?
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because goku would never do that, they aren't bloodlustedTheglassman12 said:
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Yes he does, he and numerous people in DBZ have nuked the very place that they fight in. But if you're that sure that he won't do it, Goku would just take Antman somewhere else to fight.
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I think the not sensing the bug man's ki thing may probably be PIS (I could be wrong, though)
Anyway, I now vote for Goku due to AP advantage and instinctive reaction
Anyway, I now vote for Goku due to AP advantage and instinctive reaction
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Btw, Antman's low 2-C tier is from him being so big, so I don't think it's a good idea for him to shrink considering he's low 2-C because of his giant size.
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The fact that he didn't against the bug guy (btw, first UI was before the dude so he doesn't have that knowledge this time around)Dragonmasterxyz said:
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It wasn't a matter of Goku couldn't kill, but that Goku couldn't even hit. The bug guy was only taken out because of 17's barriers (gosh, I respect the crap out of that dude)Akreious said:
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