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Sasuke vs. Kimimaro

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Since their cursed seals were said to be on the same level, I want to know who'd die in a match between both of them. I wanted to make this yesterday, but I forgot. >_>

Stipulations

  • The fight takes place outside of one of Orochimaru's bases.
  • Both are in character, and they start thirty meters apart.
  • Speed is equalized, I don't care if this gets added or not.
  • Both start in base, but can access their cursed seals.
  • This is Sasuke right before his fight against Orochimaru and a healthy Kimimaro. We can switch versions if necessary.
Sharingan no Sasuke: 7

Shikotsumyaku no Kimimaro: 1

Who's Orochimaru's strongest formerly prospective vessel?

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sasuke has everything on kimimaru.

kimi cant get too close whitout getting zapped, sasuke can see all his long ranged attacks coming, and if kimi starts getting even a bit problematic hell just genjutsu kimi
 
Sasuke has flight and range advantage to go along with sharingan and katon spam.

Kimi doesn't really have an advantage on sasuke. I'd even venture to say that this version of Sasuke might even be better with taijutsu.
 
That's it, genjutsu is probably the only sure thing for Sasuke. How's Sasuke better in taijutsu? I mean, we all saw what Kimimaro did against Lee and Gaara on his death bed, and he kept up with them for quite some time too. A healthy Kimimaro would do much, much better.

Even then, better at taijutsu doesn't necessarily mean more effective. We know that Naruto characters are susceptible to piercing damage. Sasuke getting into hand-to-hand with Kimimaro is something like a death wish. Kimimaro can just use bones to absorb the impact of his attacks, and create them en masse to impale him from different angles. Same for kenjutsu without lightning chakra. I know Sasuke has the Sharingan to anticipate them, but if they're coming from different positions at once, he might not have the chance to dodge them all.

And I think Kimimaro has some sort of Regenerationn too. He healed some holes in his body after going CS2, I think. Though how does Sasuke deal with Sawarabi no Mai? He's also not a sensor type, in case Kimimaro decides to conceal himself with it.
 
@Burning Full Fingers

What I mean is that there is actually a solid case for sasuke being a better taijutsu user than Kimimaro.

Rock lee's base(While he was still injured and just out of the hospital) was about equal to kimimaro's base. Sasuke, even at that point in the series, was a much better taijutsu fighter than base Rock Lee beacuse of his sharingan (based on the fact that he could pummel kyubi amped Naruto; who soloed Neji, who could solo base Rock Lee) .
 
Yeah, I counted your vote.

But those examples are only due to certain factors - Sasuke could anticipate Lee's movements before he made them + he could copy Lee's taijutsu, and Naruto did that to Neji because of Kurama's chakra. He was mostly getting outclassed prior to using it.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
Not infallible, and I already mentioned why Kimimaro could get hits in.
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the sharingan can see chakra, so he could see them coming and sunshin out of the way, or sobstitiute, it works on a cellural level to see them , and its not a chance ability of the likes of "i might know what you do". the only way shown to avoid its precognition was speedbltizing
 
If you want to use Shunshin, it also applies for Kimimaro as he can use it to dodge the majority of Sasuke's attacks.

I do know about that, what I'm saying is that it's going to be pretty hard for Sasuke to dodge multiple attacks that are coming from different angles at the same time when speed is equalized. He doesn't have Body Control or a unique body structure.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
If you want to use Shunshin, it also applies for Kimimaro as he can use it to dodge the majority of Sasuke's attacks.
I do know about that, what I'm saying is that it's going to be pretty hard for Sasuke to dodge multiple attacks that are coming from different angles at the same time when speed is equalized. He doesn't have Body Control or a unique body structure.
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but sasuke has long ranged attack that with good aoe and such

again, substitution would allow him to dodge, the only thing he couldnt dodge via substitution gets countered by flight and sharinga
 
I said the majority...

Sure, when you direct me to a time Sasuke spams Kawarimi like a mad man. Lol. Anyway, I get your points.

But Sasuke doesn't know about Sawarabi no Mai does.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
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Sure, when you direct me to a time Sasuke spams Kawarimi like a mad man. Lol. Anyway, I get your points.

But Sasuke doesn't know about Sawarabi no Mai does.
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he uses it whenever he cannot dodge


he didnt know what deidaras cellural bombs did, thats why i said countered by sharingan and flight, as sharingan could see the chakra
 
Err, clearly not all the time.

True, though I'm talking about how it activates. But if Sasuke isn't in CS2 by the time Kimimaro uses it, he could get caught. And Kimimaro can merge with them.

@Glass

Are you voting for anyone?
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
True, though I'm talking about how it activates. But if Sasuke isn't in CS2 by the time Kimimaro uses it, he could get caught. And Kimimaro can merge with them.
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kimimaru would not use it before using the cursed seal, and i doubt even more sasuke wouldent use the seal kimi used it
 
I wish your threads got more attention, far more thought out.

anyway voting Sasuke via possibly being stronger via the series implying it.

also, sasuke will eventually use Genjutsu..which I don't think Kimi can counter.. also I think his far more versatile with his fire and lightning style attacks.

Because this requires heavy amount of speculation from my side im saying Sasuke with high diff
 
Sasuke's genjutsu irrelevant because when Kimimaro use his curse mark genjutsu dosen't effect him as curse mark constantly give chakra to the user. This is the same reason why genjutsu can't effect jinchuurikis.
 
No, chakra need to add person's chakra system constantly. SM users already took necessary amount of chakra for using SM. Also, after putting an illusion person can't gather chakra and because of this they can't gather chakra. Curse Mark constantly give chakra to the user after activating it.

If someone have a seal or some technique to take chakra from some outside source constantly and put into person's chakra system this person become resistant.

I personally think some higher ranking genjutsu can't be resist even by jinchuurikis because Obito took control of the 4th Mizukage but how he did it i don't know.

Either way it's irrelevant for Sasuke because he is never much of an illusion user.
 
^ Those are fair points.

And besides, you can argue Kimi fought Lee when he just got of the hospital, but Kimi was already one foot in the grave. Same Kimi fought Naruto, drunk-Lee and Gaara in a row and could still not be stopped. He'd have killed Gaara at the end if his heart didn't stop. Also, I doubt Kimi will have trouble dodging Sasuke's lightning attacks; Gaara had range advantage too, but it didn't matter.
 
Sage mode constantly absorbs chakra (Proof is when Naruto fought pain preta path sucked the chakra coming to him from the surronding) Curse mark has been explained to be very similar to sage mode

Byakugo constantly gives chakra to the user

Opening greater number of gates would also give chakra
 
How can Naruto able to gather nature chakra when he is under a genjutsu? Jiraiya is okay because ma and pa gather chakra and give it to him.

You correct i forget about it. While Byakugo active Sakura and Tsunade gain passive resistance to genjutsu.

8 gates don't count because it's increase chakra flow limit not gathering chakra from outside their chakra pathway system.

Anyway we can discuss this Naruto Ability Additions 2 thread as if accepted give them resistance abilites and thread this don't derailed.
 
I'm voting for Kimimaro.

The Sharingan isn't the almighty end-all be-all of everything (at least, not in that part of the story yet). We've all seen what Kimi can do on deathbed, taking on 3 enemies in a row, including Rock Lee and Gaara, and he joked aside Gaara's sand techniques. In the same way some argued Sasuke can spam Katon and Raiton, Kimi can spam bone projectiles (that he can recreate indefinitely), block any taijutsu through his rib cage and has Sawarabi no Mai, which he can merge with and should have no problem spamming in his full state; remember he blitzed Gaara with it. At that point in the story, Sasuke doesn't have Kirin, so he can't just obliterate the forest of bones. Moreover, Sasuke knows absolutely nothing of Kimi, while Kimi should know at least some basics about Sasuke (that he's an Uchiha), with how much Orochimaru wanted him. Also, Kimimaro has much more experience in to-the-death combat than Sasuke at this point.
 
the sharingan allows to predict what chakra will do, and so he will know what kimimaru does right away

his ribcase isnt going to block a chidori.

speed equal, he aint blitzing

he does have kirin, this is when he fought orochimaru dude

again, precognition allows him to predict. and kimimaru has no real knowlege of anything of the outside world, and the only way he could know about the sharingan is if orochimaru did a monolouge in front of him

again, debatabel, sasuke at the point where he fought orochimaru has been personaly trained, while kimi wasent able to fight eventualy because of his sickness and lost quiet a bit of experience as such
 
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