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Yhwach vs Pyra

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Kisaragi_Megumi

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Well duh......an another Yhwach thread,and my first match using him Yorokobe Dot,your fav character now being used by me,and if this turning bad,i will ask to close it.The opponent is fair for him so yeah....anyway lets go!!

-Pneuma Pyra is used and post absorbtion Yhwach

-Yhwach sternritter is restricted

-Speed equalized

-Place located in Wanderich

-Both in character

-Range is 100 meter

-Win via death!!!

Bleach yhwach chapter 678 by abigail geckon-da6ksai
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-Yhwach : 5 (Dot,Knight,Homu,Glass,Kazu)

-Pyra : 2 (Dragon,Number)

-Inconclusive : 1 (Char)
 
Um why my name is in OP? I'm sure I'm not the only one that chose Yhwach as their favorite character.

As for the fight, this is nteresting. Let's avoid "almighty negs" argument and see what Pyra can do judging by her profile:

-Her resurrection and soul manipulation is pretty much useless since I doubt she want to resurrect Yhwach, and Yhwach can also resurrect better with almighty.

-Statisitics amplification and Forcefield Creation. Yhwach has that too.

-Can summon the Artifice Siren at will, which can fire highly destructive lasers. Yhwach can counter that with Heilig Pfeil or dodge it thanks to his precog.

-Elemental Manipulation. Useful for versatility, but Yhwach definitely can resist Fire and Ice with Blut vene.

-Limited Probability Manipulation. How does it works? Might be useful.

-Durability Negation. Yhwach has fight someone with durability negation before, so it's nothing new.

-Power Nullification. Again, Yhwach has fight someone with power null before and he has some resistance to it.

-Homing attack. Yhwach can block it with Blut vene anhaben or Kirchenlied: Sankt Zwinger.

-Empathic Manipulation. How does it works?

-Data Manipulation. Not sure if it's that useful.

-Telekinesis. Yhwach has that too.

-possibly Time Manipulation and Reality Warping. This is very useful for Pyra, can she use it for combat?

And Jin states that Pneuma could turn her imagination into reality. Well that basically Gremmy's power.

So conclusion, Yhwach has some way to counter Pyra's abilities. While she had the intelligence (being a genius and all) and more versatile so she can keep up with Yhwach for some time but I think ultimately, Yhwach's precog is going to be useful here since he always one step ahead and Almighty very useful to nulled most of her power (and I don't say he can null all of her power mind you, to avoid NLF), he also experienced fighting haxxed people before and for the worse case scenario Yhwach can always comeback with Almighty by undoing his death.

So yeah, Yhwach take this.
 
Why are you not using Rex??? He should have the same abilities as Pyra, and a bit more.
 
I'm going with Pyra, while power nullification is and soul manipulation is useless, Durability Negation and homing attack could give Pyra a slight advantage. Yhwach's multi-precognition wouldn't entirely do him good against homing attack. Additionally, Pyra is much more skilled and versatile; Yhwach has a major weakness in that he is extremely egotistical. He often wastes his time bragging about his power which causes his own Precognition abilities and the Almighty useless. There's also time manipulation and reality warping as Pyra's trump cards.
 
He's only bragging to Ichigo just like how Aizen not use KS on Ichigo, no matter how arrogant Yhwach is. When he can see Ichigo's bankai is going to be a trouble for him in future and he immediately destroy it so Yhwach can destroy Pyra's weapon if it pose dangerous, homing attack and dura negation is not enough to beat him considering he face people with comparable hax before.

Time Manipulation and Reality Warping is useful yes, but if Yhwach saw it in future he would immediately use Almighty to counter it.

As I said before, Yhwach can still undo his own death and suprise attack Pyra.
 
And then Yhwach immediately pissed his pants because Uryu's arrow surprised him. ^^

It was mentioned on another thread that there were going to be weaknesses added to Yhwach. Fate manip for Almighty is more so just probability manipulation as he cannot cause events that are beyond his physical prowess. Also, he can only manipulate or foresee immediate events; most of Yhwach's abilities are heavily dependant on NLF's tbh. Also, Yhwach undoing his own death is mostly just him seeing his death coming so he immediately has to alter some probabilities where that doesn't happen. He doesn't have Low-Godly regen or anything like that nor will he ever. Anyway, there are already multiple weaknesses being added to Yhwach and the Almighty in order being added.

Given Pyra's time manipulation and precognition, I highly doubt Pyra's going to be surprised by Yhwach.
 
Yes, but resistance =/= immune. Besides, time manip would only strengthen her own pre-cog and weaken Yhwach's pre-cog and resistance.
 
No arrow argument please, we've been through this before, and I'm not even use Almighty Negs argument here so please don't just said NLF.

Yhwach can undo his death, it's a fact. Not NLF. And Yhwach has fight haxxed people before so I fail to see how Almighty can't just destroy Pyra's weapon or not power null since he's no sell to Ichibe's EE. The probability of Yhwach winning is pretty high here.

And yes Yhwach should resistant to Precog thanks to Mimihagi.
 
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1271214 Three instances, not just the arrow one, but Orihime and Yoruichi also got around Yhwach's almighty. Therefore, it's not PIS, it's consistent.

Yhwach was also unable to undo his own death when Ichigo bisected him.
 
So? My point still stands here, He still can use almighty despite the weakness since its one on one battle here, no Aizen KS or Uryuu's arrow or Ichigo so he will gaze and will focus at Pyra. Unless you said Pyra is immune to precog, I fail to see how Yhwach will not be able to predict her movement or undo his death in worse case scenario.

And I don't think that thread is concluded yet.
 


1. The reason why Yoruichi able to get passed him because: Ichigo restrain him, and he was distrcated by mimihagi, don't remember the Orihime, if you mean when she's shielding Ichigo is because he's not even serious or maybe even because Orihime's shield has casuality manip nature and again, in here. It's is one vs one, no outside help or distraction.

2. It because the arrow null his almighty that prevent him to undo his death in time.
 
Oh yeah, almost forgot to address the summon. It's technically two on one when she has that. Artifice Siren could distract Yhwach which will enable Pyra to bypass Yhwach's precognition use some of her hax.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Oh yeah, almost forgot to address the summon. It's technically two on one when she has that. Artifice Siren could distract Yhwach which will enable Pyra to bypass Yhwach's precognition use some of her hax.
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Assuming the Yhwach will allow Pyra to summon it in the first place? Or are we sure if she will immediately use that? How strong is her summon?
 
It's a large mech that fires powerful lasers, assumed to be just as strong, if not stronger than she is; also, as a side note, Pyra is at least 3x the baseline for Continent level or 2.28 Petatons where as Yhwach is only about 1 Petaton. If Yhwach is distracted, Pyra could also try to null Yhwach's abilities. Also, haven't gotten far enough in Xenoblade 2 as it sure is a long ass albeit great game, but looking at Rex's profile. Their time manip caused light to be stopped at a dead center; which sounds a lot like time stopping.
 
Well Yhwach 1 petatons feats is very casual, not to mention this version he's absorb Ichigo's power and remaining sternritter so Yhwach pretty much above 1 petatons.

Time stop for how long? Yhwach can revived even when he become a black ooze and while Ichigo is talking to Aizen for some time, It's not like Pyra can power null Yhwach's almighty anyway since he's no sell to Ichibe's power null, and like I said before, precognition is still useful here. So Yhwach will always one step ahead since they started in 1v1 so he will focus his attention on Pyra, I doubt Yhwach will allow Pyra to summon in the first place.
 
@Homu Apparently, Yhwach cannot undo his own death if its beyond the realm of possibility or probability.

And Pyra has reality warping and time manip, I guess.
 
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