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Who would win between the two who have defeated Luke?
Win via KO, incapacitation, or death. SPEED EQUALIZED
Win via KO, incapacitation, or death. SPEED EQUALIZED
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Skywalker Killers - (Martian Manhunter vs Cthulhu)
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MM mindfucks and calls it a day.
Also isn't Cthulhu's match getting removed?
Also isn't Cthulhu's match getting removed?
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Is it?
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Probably since Luke isn't High 4C anymore.
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Well then is this a stomp?
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Well, bad news for J'onn is that his mindhax is probably his only means of winning this for good, thanks to Cthulhu's absolutely ridiculous survivability and other strange ways of ignoring hax.
Good news is, as far as his character goes, he's a telepath first and a physical fighter second. He's gonna start with that mindhax shit right away. And since he can comprehend (and even control) a mind as complex and abstract as the Spectre's, the ol' mindmash is null and void here.
Other good news is, I'm pretty sure Cthulhu can't hurt him physically. Tier difference and all.
Good news is, as far as his character goes, he's a telepath first and a physical fighter second. He's gonna start with that mindhax shit right away. And since he can comprehend (and even control) a mind as complex and abstract as the Spectre's, the ol' mindmash is null and void here.
Other good news is, I'm pretty sure Cthulhu can't hurt him physically. Tier difference and all.
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I'm betting MM for Durability, AP gap and his insanely godlike mind hax (Seriously that shit works on abstract beings)
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To death: I will go for inconclusive. Cthulhu can't harm Manhunter, and Manhunter can't perma-kill him.
Until one is incapped: Manhunter has it, he can just destroy his physical form and call it a day (Far higher AP and strength)
Until one is incapped: Manhunter has it, he can just destroy his physical form and call it a day (Far higher AP and strength)
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MM had mindhaxed higher dimensionals with completely alien minds like The Spectre before. I don't see any reason to to think that Cthulhu is out of his weight class.
Voting MM for that reason
Voting MM for that reason
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So far:
-Manhunter: 7 votes
-Cthulhu: 0 votes.
-Manhunter: 7 votes
-Cthulhu: 0 votes.
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Is this a stomp tho?
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Don't see how
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4-B vs High 4-C
Yes I know AP isn't always what matters but is it enough of a difference to make this unfair?
Yes I know AP isn't always what matters but is it enough of a difference to make this unfair?
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AP doesn't mean anything when Cthulhu has Low Godly
MM wins through superior telepathy, that ain't a stomp
MM wins through superior telepathy, that ain't a stomp
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Alright then, first loss for the flying spaghetti monster
And this can be added right away, yes?
And this can be added right away, yes?
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Actually I'm not so sure whether MM's mindhax would work on Cthulhu or not. Sure his mindhax has worked on Tier 2 beings but the thing is Cthulhu has seen the other Great Old Ones with most of them being 1-A and merely looking at a Great Old One will cause one to go insane. Yet Cthulhu can still dimly view them without going insane.
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It's not just about the Tiers here. Some higher tiered characters would even be easier to mind hax. The thing is The Spectre could perceive the entire universe on a sub-atomic level as well as all of it's possible outcomes and MM casually mind haxed him.
Also you are confusing the Outer Gods with The Great Old Omes of which only Nug and Yeb could be 1-A. You make it sound like Cthulhu has resisted mind hax from either which he hasn't. If one of the Outer Gods wanted to mind screw Cthulhu they could do it with absolutely 0 difficulty. So that's not really a resistance feat.
The main thing protecting Cthulhu from mind hax is his otherworldly mind but MM has overcome that several times before with beings magnitudes more intelligent and powerful.
Also you are confusing the Outer Gods with The Great Old Omes of which only Nug and Yeb could be 1-A. You make it sound like Cthulhu has resisted mind hax from either which he hasn't. If one of the Outer Gods wanted to mind screw Cthulhu they could do it with absolutely 0 difficulty. So that's not really a resistance feat.
The main thing protecting Cthulhu from mind hax is his otherworldly mind but MM has overcome that several times before with beings magnitudes more intelligent and powerful.
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