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Major Kirby-verse Upgrade

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Only for the low-tiers tho.

Explanatio
Currently, all the beings in this verse that are either to weak or not strong enough to be compared to Kirby are 5-A and FTL scaling to Knuckle Joe cracking part of Popstar, which we know is immensely large but has a debatable size.

I'm not so sure how crazy it sounds to say that Popstar is the size of a star, but this is exactly what I will try to prove for this upgrade.

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Arguments

Size in compariso
Not saying that we should take these comparisons literally, just showing that it has proved to be pretty big.

(The sun and the moon being the same size is obviously bullshit.) I'm not sure if this is Kirby Super Star or its remake but both use the same sizes for the celestial bodies.


Star Dream
Much smaller than Popstar.

He has µÿƒ in his jap name which can be used for star or planet but for context "star" is the proper use, just like with Kirby (µÿƒÒü«Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒâ╝). Star Dream has also been translated in all languages as star. He resembles and is said to be both a planet and star simultaneously.

It's also established that Popstar's resources were greater than any other planet he had invaded so far. (Something similar happens with Claycia iirc.)

In Kirby Mass Attack
The space pirate Daroach established that Necrodeus hates light, and also this... Star Popstar Fairly clear, I say. Necrodeus's hate for the light would return in the future in the form of jewels.

So yeah that's everything, I think it's safe to say that Popstar works like a planet but it's at least the size of a star.

(If it weren't for Darouch stating that Popstar is a star I wouldn't be doing this tho.)
 
Well, I don't think that size in Kirby is consistent, and I don't think that the name matters a lot, but Daroach says clearly that Pop Star is a star, so yeah, I agree
 
I didn't want to just show his establishment honestly.

Maybe I'm missing other facts that I could use as evidence.
 
So... Should we consider Popstar the size of a normal star... or far bigger?
 
I think one of the reasons we considered Pop Star a planet was because it has similar mass and gravity to Earth. I know Cal is obviously going to support an upgrade, but I have another feeling that Azzy might argue against this as usual. Respect both their opinions though. Should probably ask each of them.
 
Plus if Popstar was an actual star wouldn't everyone living on it be, like, burned or incinerated?

And everyone and their mother would have High 6-A durability from living off its heat?
 
That's weird, I mean, Planet Pop Star is pretty massive, it has 3 moons (one of said moons being a huge moon on its stratosphere), asteroid belts and all but... Star sized planets? Sounds strange.
 
Pop Star sounds like the opposite of Zebes if you ask me. Star sized volume of a planet with normal gravity, verses a normal sized volume of a planet with 960x Earth's gravity.
 
DarkLordofShadows said:
That's weird, I mean, Planet Pop Star is pretty massive, it has 3 moons (one of said moons being a huge moon on its stratosphere), asteroid belts and all but... Star sized planets? Sounds strange.
I mean, Hotbeat is likely a planet sized sun.
 
As for who it shines and is the brightest star in space, which apparently has consistency in comparison with other stars, we were doing wrong in looking for a sense to all of this.
 
Bump. And also, it may be possible for the low-tiers to have their reactions upgraded based on this, thoughts?
 
Okey, it would be better to ignore it in that case.
 
Don't we have regulations regarding star and planet feats from japanese sources?

In Japanese, star and planet both share the same word; "hoshi". So one could mean the other. It's why we don't have 4-C Saitama already; because planet and star could both mean the same thing when being translated to english.

Also, I think the "brightest star in the universe" quote is a metaphor. He's likely referring to the life on the planet and how rich pop star is with its resources. Plus "brightest star in the universe", if we take it literally, means that Pop Star is not just star-sized, but an actual star as well, which isn't logically possible, as stars do not have environments suitible for plants, non-vaporized water, and small creatures like butterflies.
 
I think that ArbitraryNumbers makes sense.
 
Given context and the fact that Necrodeus transformed 105 stars into "star" shape Sun Gems for his hatred for light I find hard to believe that this refers to a planet and that brightest star in the universe is metaphor. Clearly he was not referring or was interested in the resources of Pop Star like Star Dream.

For everything else there is the fact that Pop Star works and is a Earth-like from the inside but is somehow yellow and it shinies from the outside.
 
With Saitama the context and later claims made it very clear that Boros referred to a planet, here is the opposite I believe.
 
To gather all this "context" I mention without anyone missing anything:

So yeah, this thing shines, with that demonstrated and stated twice in the lore there is no reason to not believe that it's also the brightest thing in the universe.
 
Well, AN does have a point in that it is most definitely not a burning gas giant, so I do not think that we can draw the conclusion that it is star sized either.
 
It's true that it doesn't have those characteristics and is a planet, but how would it be explained to be the brightest celestial body in the universe if it's not by sheer size alone? In that sense should be considered a star, not another.

I think the possibilities of that are good enough to be considered.
 
Well, the problem is that we do not seem to have any reliable proof.
 
Beyond being called a star when it's not one, I have nothing I suppose. Can we consider this enough for a "At least 5-A, possibly 4-C" possibility?
 
I do not know. I try not to interfere in revisions of verses that already have knowledgeable staff members taking care of them.

Did you ask them for input here, as I suggested? Azathoth and The real cal howard know about Kirby, for example.
 
So should we close this thread?
 
Almost, I would like to ask what exact interpretations we are giving to all of this.
 
Apparently that there is no reliable proof for higher tiers than currently.
 
I mean if consider it the most brilliant celestial body in the universe is fine, and if not then how about the fact that it shines.
 
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