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Hello and Happy New Year 2018 to everyone here. Now I know there have been many DBX content revision threads recently and there has been a lot of Future Warrior hype recently as well (looking at you DB vs Digimon threads).
I feel like with the evidence brought to the table recently I feel like the Xenoverse characters (Future Warrior XV and XV2,Toki-Toki Demigra and Final Form Mira) should at least be 2-B or Multiverse level.
Here are my reasons and possible feats:
Why Multiverse level?
Xenoverse 1 and 2 seem to have some feats that affect the entire multiverse. However the game cosmology was not very well detailed in the past.
However this sca seems to suggest that by the time the feats take place "myriads" of timelines had been created due to the interference of Mira and Towa in DBO.
This is what myriad (singular mind you) means:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/myriad
Toki-Toki
• First it should be noted that Toki-Toki is a bird who can manipulate time. This in and of itself is simple. He is also stated to be able to create the time for universes with his eggs. Again very simple stuff.
However Toki Toki at his peak is Multiversal, considering that he was able to recreate (or Time-Stop it I'm not sure) the multiverse so that the Future Warrior could go back once again to that point in time and prevent the destruction of the multiverse.
It must have been the entire Multiverse since Demigra was going to destroy the time-nest which includes every timeline in existence. This is important, since Demigra absorbed Toki-Toki and should at least somewhat scale to this.
Demigra controls all of Time and Space
• Demigra upon absorbing Toki-Toki stated that he had power over over all of time and all of space. It is also evidenced by the fact that even after he had died he could send wormholes to various timelines.
This feat was previously accepted to be 2-C or Multi-Universe level. However given the evidence that there are so many timelines that they could basically be called "infinite" and that Mira's time paradoxes created myriads of timelines then being able to control all of time and all of space should clearly be 2-B in this case.
Also DBH Demigra has a similar feat with similar statements which is accepted as 2-B.
Mira's core overload
• Mira in Xenoverse 2 was overloading his core in his fight against Future Warrior (XV2). Towa stated that his core overloading and exploding would break the eggs and through dimensions. Towa also stated that she would not be able to escape the explosion.
This is important since Towa is capable of traveling to any other timeline and even to place apart of the main Multiverse (remember that Towa had the egg at the time which she used to make a portal for Mira to return from the Crack of Time in which he had fought Bardock) and even then she said she would not able to escape and that everyone would be poached and she even opted to stay fighting.
Then after he is defeated he states that absorbing Towa and the egg would bring him to a level beyond himself. This means that he would have ascended to a level he wouldn't have been able to achieve with his core.
Nevermind the fact that Mira would scale to any of Demigra's feats (as I will explain below)
Beerus threatens to destroy everything
• Chronoa stated that Beerus would be able to destroy everything on his lonesome without any mention of the Time Nest if he got angry.
It should be noted that Chronoa only mentions the Time Nest being in danger when Beerus and The Future Warrior are in the Time Nest and it is never mentioned being in danger outside of it.
While I'm not 100% sure if anyone scales to Full Power Beerus there are some things worth mentioning:
1.In one of the Parallel Quests and even in The main story The Original Future Warrior fights against Beerus and Whis. In the PQ after Supressed Beerus is defeated then he powers up even further and still is defeated meaning that he should still scale somewhat.
Not to mention that the FW still needs help from the spirits of the other characters to completely defeat Demigra so he should also scale.
2.the Future Warrior (XV2) was able to fight and harm an angry Beerus. While he probably still doesn't scale to Full Power Beerus he should still be very close although he also had help from Whis.
This happens before the fight with Mira and the FW has to team up with SSJB Goku to defeat Final Form Mira so he should also scale.
Also the FW could harm a supressed Whis.
Possible Multiverse level+ statements
This thread was originally focused on upgrading the Xenoverse characters to the level of the Heroes characters with feats and statements which is Multiverse level.
However there are some scans which seem to suggest that the multiverse might have an Infinite amount of Timelines.
https://m.imgur.com/a/aFqoR
https://m.imgur.com/J9flgps
https://m.imgur.com/a/sXRBJ
https://m.imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
Characters who could scale to 2-B (or 2-A):
Demigra:Via the feats I stated above.
Mira:Via the feats I stated above. Not to mention the fact that the FW (XV2) needed help to beat him so he should be stronger than him individually.
Future Warrior(XV2):Was able to harm an angry Beerus and fight on par with the first Future Warrior.
Future Warrior:Could fight on par with Final Form Demigra and ultimately defeat him. It should be noted that Demigra's 2-B feats and statements are done in his base form so he should definitely scale.
I feel like with the evidence brought to the table recently I feel like the Xenoverse characters (Future Warrior XV and XV2,Toki-Toki Demigra and Final Form Mira) should at least be 2-B or Multiverse level.
Here are my reasons and possible feats:
Why Multiverse level?
Xenoverse 1 and 2 seem to have some feats that affect the entire multiverse. However the game cosmology was not very well detailed in the past.
However this sca seems to suggest that by the time the feats take place "myriads" of timelines had been created due to the interference of Mira and Towa in DBO.
This is what myriad (singular mind you) means:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/myriad
Toki-Toki
• First it should be noted that Toki-Toki is a bird who can manipulate time. This in and of itself is simple. He is also stated to be able to create the time for universes with his eggs. Again very simple stuff.
However Toki Toki at his peak is Multiversal, considering that he was able to recreate (or Time-Stop it I'm not sure) the multiverse so that the Future Warrior could go back once again to that point in time and prevent the destruction of the multiverse.
It must have been the entire Multiverse since Demigra was going to destroy the time-nest which includes every timeline in existence. This is important, since Demigra absorbed Toki-Toki and should at least somewhat scale to this.
Demigra controls all of Time and Space
• Demigra upon absorbing Toki-Toki stated that he had power over over all of time and all of space. It is also evidenced by the fact that even after he had died he could send wormholes to various timelines.
This feat was previously accepted to be 2-C or Multi-Universe level. However given the evidence that there are so many timelines that they could basically be called "infinite" and that Mira's time paradoxes created myriads of timelines then being able to control all of time and all of space should clearly be 2-B in this case.
Also DBH Demigra has a similar feat with similar statements which is accepted as 2-B.
Mira's core overload
• Mira in Xenoverse 2 was overloading his core in his fight against Future Warrior (XV2). Towa stated that his core overloading and exploding would break the eggs and through dimensions. Towa also stated that she would not be able to escape the explosion.
This is important since Towa is capable of traveling to any other timeline and even to place apart of the main Multiverse (remember that Towa had the egg at the time which she used to make a portal for Mira to return from the Crack of Time in which he had fought Bardock) and even then she said she would not able to escape and that everyone would be poached and she even opted to stay fighting.
Then after he is defeated he states that absorbing Towa and the egg would bring him to a level beyond himself. This means that he would have ascended to a level he wouldn't have been able to achieve with his core.
Nevermind the fact that Mira would scale to any of Demigra's feats (as I will explain below)
Beerus threatens to destroy everything
• Chronoa stated that Beerus would be able to destroy everything on his lonesome without any mention of the Time Nest if he got angry.
It should be noted that Chronoa only mentions the Time Nest being in danger when Beerus and The Future Warrior are in the Time Nest and it is never mentioned being in danger outside of it.
While I'm not 100% sure if anyone scales to Full Power Beerus there are some things worth mentioning:
1.In one of the Parallel Quests and even in The main story The Original Future Warrior fights against Beerus and Whis. In the PQ after Supressed Beerus is defeated then he powers up even further and still is defeated meaning that he should still scale somewhat.
Not to mention that the FW still needs help from the spirits of the other characters to completely defeat Demigra so he should also scale.
2.the Future Warrior (XV2) was able to fight and harm an angry Beerus. While he probably still doesn't scale to Full Power Beerus he should still be very close although he also had help from Whis.
This happens before the fight with Mira and the FW has to team up with SSJB Goku to defeat Final Form Mira so he should also scale.
Also the FW could harm a supressed Whis.
Possible Multiverse level+ statements
This thread was originally focused on upgrading the Xenoverse characters to the level of the Heroes characters with feats and statements which is Multiverse level.
However there are some scans which seem to suggest that the multiverse might have an Infinite amount of Timelines.
https://m.imgur.com/a/aFqoR
https://m.imgur.com/J9flgps
https://m.imgur.com/a/sXRBJ
https://m.imgur.com/a/Q6w5g
Characters who could scale to 2-B (or 2-A):
Demigra:Via the feats I stated above.
Mira:Via the feats I stated above. Not to mention the fact that the FW (XV2) needed help to beat him so he should be stronger than him individually.
Future Warrior(XV2):Was able to harm an angry Beerus and fight on par with the first Future Warrior.
Future Warrior:Could fight on par with Final Form Demigra and ultimately defeat him. It should be noted that Demigra's 2-B feats and statements are done in his base form so he should definitely scale.
