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Hatsune Miku / VOCALOID Massive Downgrade

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Matthew_Schroeder

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So, I want to address something which has been bothering me for a long while. Namely, our VOCALOID pages:

Being frank, they are completely and utterly wanked.

To explain my positioning, I will go over each one of the characters and analyze the feats listed, and show why most of them are wrongly interpreted.

Hatsune Miku
This one is the most important, as she holds most of the "feats", which I will address bellow:

  • Miku sang so loud it reached the ends of the universe.
Ignoring the nonsense of Massively FTL+ sound, this is supposed to come from the Hello Planet clip from the Project Mirai game, but if you actually watch the clip, there is absolutely nothing that implies that.

The closest I can find is this, where Miku climbs on a beam sprout which grows to the clouds, then over a giant clock, then past space, and then past the tree of life (?), before reaching Heaven.

This does not show evidence of her voice reaching the ends of the universe, nor can it be interpreted as a speed feat. As if it was, it would scale to the bean sprout, and not Miku. And the visuals are obviously not meant to be taken literally here.

And the lyrics also don't imply that at all.

  • Miku is implied to move the entire night-sky on a whim.
No link given to this feat, making it impossible to attest to.

  • Claimed to have crossed the Milky Way galaxy nigh-instantly.
This one has a link, but anyone who watches the video can see it is not a speed feat. Miku is dancing in place as the scenery around her swiftly changes. The Earth even rises up from beneath the screen and "catches up" to Miku, which would imply the planet was moving at MFTL+ speeds, and then starts spinning on a whim. And then after curtains fall, she is in another scenery, going down the streets on what appear to be a miniscule planetoid like King Kai's planet, while also being larger than the buildings.

This is once again obviously not meant to be taken literally.

Oh, and again, the lyrics don't imply anything about crossing the milky way.

  • Caught on her plant growing, which could travel the entire universe quickly.
You mean the bean sprout from before? She was standing atop it before it started growing. And the visuals are once again not literal.

  • Reality Warped an entire planet into becoming full of life and grew much bigger than said planet.
This one sorta has a feat. Here it is. "Miku" does indeed make the planet green and full of life with her powers, except that's not even Miku. Miku is the chibi character, alongside the other VOCALOIDs in the clip. The full-sized Miku is supposed to be a Shinto-like goddess of sorts. This is her feat, not Miku's.

Oh, and the planet-size thing? That is once again obviously not a literal image. Specially since all the chibi VOCALOIDs are also planet-sized. The goddess is holding the planet as a ball on her hands to show that she is caring for it, it's basic symbolism. To use an analogy, I'm fairly certain that this picture isn't saying that Jesus is planet-sized, but rather that he is watching over us.

  • Defeated a Godzilla-like monster.
Okay, this one would be an actual feat. In the video, Miku is both building sized, defeats a building-sized monster that looks like Godzilla, and then is shown being planet-sized.

Except none of it is real. The clip starts with Miku putting a doll on a maquete of a city, the same "city" where later a "building-sized Miku" fights a "giant monster", and the clips also ends with Miku on the real world, and both dolls visible on the maquete. Miku isn't fighting Godzilla, she is playing with toys. That's not a feat.

  • Jumped from planet to planet to a nearby galaxy while pushing said planets away.
First of all, this feat is from an Opening. We have literally never accepted feats from openings or cover arts, such as Knuckles causing a volcanic eruption in the Sonic Boom opening, or Saitama punching through the moon in a cover art for the manga.

But even ignoring that, it's not a feat either. Miku and her friends are seen leaping from planet to planet, except those planets are being held by sticks, and some of the things they are jumping on aren't planets, but space satellites and spaceships, which are the same size as the planets. So the most logical assumption is that these aren't real planets, but rather models.

  • Traveled to another universe using a flying chocolate bar.
Another opening feat. And it is also misleading. Yes, they fly through space on a giant chocolate bar, but said "space" is full of floating candy, ice cream, and gift boxes. I'm positively sure that this isn't meant to be a literal space, or something to seriously consider. It's just a cute opening.

Also, no proof of flying to another universe.

  • Came back from being deleted from reality.
Okay, this one is super vague. Here's the clip. Miku is in a computer data-like place for most of the video, and at the end she seemingly returns to the normal world. The English Lyrics lyrics sorta imply that she was deleted and returned:


I was in the 0, fearing that I might be negated
I hid amongst copies and delusions
I left the 0, fearing I might erode
I gave up warmth, wanting to be divine
But this is super vague. Please provide more context.

Megurine Luka and MEIKO
She only has scaling from Miku, and for supposedly growing to the size of the Earth in that goddess videoclip, which is not a literal scene.

Lilly
She appears to have a lot of feats, but none of them are linked or accounted for. I am very skeptical given the "feats" listed for Miku above.

Kagamine_Rin/Len
The first feat is the supposed-size in the Goddess video, other than that...

  • Destroyed a virtual world containing many stars in Kokoro.
Okay, points there. This one did happen. You can see it here. However, the video starts with Rin entering the virtual reality through a VR chair. And the video ends again showing her real self in the chair. So this wouldn't scale to the real Rin. Only Rin in that specific virtual reality.

  • Jumped from planet to plant to a nearby galaxy while pushing said planets away / Traveled to another universe using a flying chocolate bar.
Both Miku "feats" which I debunked above.

Hachune Miku
The only evidence for her High 8-C feat is a picture in the gallery. I would find this acceptable, but everything else leaves me skeptical. I'd like to at least see the video.

Conclusion
The VOCALOID profiles are incredibly wanked, containing ridiculous stats based on out-of-context scenes, and should either be properly downgraded to a reliable rating, and / or deleted.
 
Probably human level considering that they are canonically normal Idols and the videos we see of them are just their Music Videos. It's like saying that Michael Jackson has magical powers because of this.
 
@Matt

Are you saying that Michael Jackson isn't an entity that embodies the universe and transcends space and time, just like a video game that i never saw again once stated? ovo

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On a serious note, i fully agree with this
 
Probably even worse then the DMC one the arguments are even more ridiculous and the downgrade is also much higher
 
ApiesDeathbyLazors said:
Does VOCALOID have any feats that can be taken seriously?
They could have. The goddess in that video does have a High 6-A feat, but it scales to no one.

I don't doubt some actual, legit Tier 8 feats here and there. But definitely not cosmic-level stuff.
 
Saikou probably saw the highlight.

So just wait for him to comment.

If he doesn't...well...dunno really
 
MrKingOfNegativity said:
Matt VS Wanked Stats
Fucken lol.

Admittedly it does make me sad when it's a verse I like (DMC) but I'm alright with this, and seeing wank (Wank I think is genuine)get debunked is always fun.
 
For god's sake, Matt. What the heck is even this downgrade? 4-A to 10-B?

Anyway, those stats seem pretty wanked. I'd rather just delete the profiles unless Saikou responds to this, really.
 
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