Steve + The Player merge

It's rather small but still.

I think that The Player (Minecraft) and Steve should be a single profile, given that:

-There is little distinction between the two. At best, Steve is just the in-game avatar of the player. Not a totally separate entity

-Given that Steve now has a female counterpart, our current profile doesn't really cover the entire playable character. And a whole profile for Alex would be pointless

Of course, Tier 2 and Tier 7 would be a different key.

woa, hmm... sour

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ye woa

a huge boost confirmed?

In this context it's more like adding Steve's stats to The Player's

bump

Woa (looks fine)

The VS battles wiki: the only place where people even romotely care about minecraft, much less it's story (also roblox but i don't need any more cancer thank you very much)

Eh...I'm not too sure about this. We normally tend to keep MC avatars separate. There's a reason Tenchi Masaki isn't tier 0, and that was confirmed to be an avatar.

For the Alex thing, add an image tab. It's...kinda a simple fix...

"We normally tend to keep MC avatars separate" I can probably give you a couple examples of the opposite tho. Even Arceus.

There isn't even any consciousness separation there. They're treated as having the same mind.

MC=Main character. Arceus ain't one.

That's an oddly specific category to put a standard on, little Cal.

I mean, I wouldn't say so if it was something like a clearly distinct entity that just so happens to have the MC as an avatar, but there isn't much distinction between the two. It's like the difference between you and your in-dream self.

Well, if The Player and Steve aren't treated as separate characters and act as pretty much... A Higher Being and their Mindless Avatar who is just their "consciousness" in a lower body

...then i don't see any problem with that

Actually I agree that Player and Steve/Alex emerge become like The_Player.

but we'd deal distinct entity problem

IMO there's multiple entities (not just Player) in the End Poem but first we need to read the End Poem again:

>"Player" point of view, Entities stated very vague about Minecraft's a dream lol (whatever), lets get back to REALITY (Wake Up lulz) my idea is there's multiple entities listening/reading to Entities.

Entities said "And the game was over and the player woke up from the dream. And the player began a new dream. And the player dreamed agai, dreamed better. And the player was the universe. And the player was love."

Dream = Universe = "World"

it's clear PLAYERNAME isn't player in this dialog, though being player's PLAYERNAME in sense.

did you catch the problem? maybe yes maybe no, i'm pointing there's 2 Player at the same time.

Fictional Player's point of view to Minecraft as a Dream. 2-C confirmed being able to create single new world and so forth

Non-Fictional Player's point of view to the Minecraft as a (Game) World, this referred to "Menu_screen/Select Worlds ". 2-B confirmed being plural

Lastly Steve's point of view the Minecraft as (Reality) World. being avatar obviously

My idea there should be fictional and non-fictional to avoid contradict to both End Poem or In-Game and avoid confusion about the Minecraft's a dream because End Poem said so, but there's Steve so Minecraft aren't a dream you're making nonsense, so both of us don't make any sense at all we should make this case irrelevant a trash a crap a dead bush.

but what about Universe thingy?

"And the player was the universe. And the player was love."

"We are the universe. We are everything you think isn't you."

i definitely have no clear idea what da#@$ Entities said, or possibly implying:

Fictional Player (Including Entities) = Universe

or the Poem referring it to Skins?

Edit:

adding Steve should be similar lore to the Player, but the only problem is that there's too many user-implemented but i still considered the End Poem lore's part of Steve's lore since being In-Game

Edit2:

text fixed ok?

I suppose that I do not mind if Saikou's suggestion is applied.

Going to be honest I have no idea where you're pulling that "There are two players" things from, your wall of text barely helping me due to you mixing up quotations, bolding and strings of text not actually from the poem.

Saikou The Lewd King said:

Going to be honest I have no idea where you're pulling that

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There have to be distinction between "You" Player and Fictional Player because End Poem stated Player's dreaming.

"There are two players" things from, your wall of text barely helping me
I'm suggesting that there's Non-Fiction Player and Fictional Player since End Poem was being both 4th wall canon and self-proclaimed Player's in Dream.

My other point's The Player -------> The Fictional Player

The Idea: The Player as Fictional Character was stated by Entities from End Poem said The Player view the Minecraft being as a DREAM it's clearly not "You" Player, but at the same time breaking the 4th wall mean there's also Player as Non-Fictional Character since Non-Fictional Player can be plural and only capable of 2-B feats because the Player as Fictional Character haven't shown duplicating the world.

Since i'm late the Steve profile was updated into official The Player. Here i'm discussing End Poem Player and "You" Player rather than Steve/Alex avatar. If some would agree that there's DOUBLED entity Player in the End Poem.

I re-read the profile and End Poem again, i'll change my point, i'm suggesting adding key:

from Key: Early Game | Mid Game | Late Game | Real Player

to 'Key: Early Game | Mid Game | Late Game' | Dream Player' | 'Real Player

from 9-A | 8-C | 7-C | 2-C, possibly 2-B

to 9-A | 8-C | 7-C | 2-C | possibly 2-B

like i said above Fictional Player view Minecraft as a Dream (so Dream Player) to avoid confusion about Player's point of view to the Minecraft as a Dream or (Game) World also Dream Player's a single entity compare to Real Player being majority because eventually most people in Minecraft community would imply The Player's have already created thousands million or hundreds million of single worlds created because there's millions of Players AROUND THE WORLD since people thought The Player's plural (also the new profile said true player, you, by the Entities. yep people would think it's plural then will argue the tier is wrong it's not "possibly" ) also there's here some people from vsBattle would say No, you have not enough proof that the Player created thousands of worlds basically pointing that there's only one Player this would cause FLAME WARS wether if it's individual player or majority of people.

due to you mixing up quotations, bolding and strings of text not actually from the poem.
Oh sorry for using quotations (TBH i don't completely understand quotation so i just did what patterns i've learned) it only make things difficult to understand? oh well. I should use underlines more often than quotes.

Edit:

from now on i'm not going to call it as Fictional Player in the End Poem Player, i gonna call it as Dream Player rather than Fictional Player.

You still haven't provided proofs of that. The new dream is just... Another dream. And "the player is the universe" is metaphorical