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Alien X vs Bill Cipher

Bill Ciphers unserious nature screws him over. Alien X will be the first to Time Stop+Reality Warp him or Punch him out of existence.

Voting X
 
^Was just about to say that.

Also, as we all know, Alien X can remove all his weaknesses from himself <-This is a joke
 
Yobobojojo said:
Even if it is Omniverse, Alien X has been shown to be unable to do that to the Galactic Gladiator, it's unlikely he could do that to Bill.
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That's because GG resists those two...
 
Gargoyle One said:
No why?
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Bexcuse, it's been established if a characters ability has not countered something before, we can't assume it can. X also has not ever been able to harm low 2-c's with reality warping while Bill has one shot some before.
 
Then why couldn't Alien X do that to him?

If he couldn't do that, then either GG resists it, or he outright didn't try to, which he obviously didn't, and that's not a quantifiable example as to why he can't do it to Bill
 
Gargoyle One said:
Then why couldn't Alien X do that to him?
If he couldn't do that, then either GG resists it, or he outright didn't try to, which he obviously didn't, and that's not a quantifiable example as to why he can't do it to Bill
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Except, once again, if a character has no feats of being able to do that to a certain level character, they can't be assumed to be capable of that.
 
Besides, not being able to do it to someone doesn't make them autoresistant, sometimes abilities are too weak. That's why reactive evolution is such an NLF. It's also why we can't assume a Tier 3-Average character was cold immunity if they get frozen by a 4-C
 
Except, once again, if a character has no feats of being able to do that to a certain level character, they can't be assumed to be capable of that.

Yeeaaahhhhh No. That's not how hax works.

If a character is Low 2C and has hax, then to assume they don't work on someone else on their level without feats shows zero knowledge on hax.

Affecting a Low 2C while not being Low 2C takes evidence yes, but a Low 2C having hax that doesn't work on another is nonsensical and wrong.
 
I agree on the Hax thing. However, Alien X's is potent enough to recreate the universe and completely alter reality, changing the art style for the series as a whole.

I'm pretty sure this is more impressive than anything Restrained Bill did.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Except, once again, if a character has no feats of being able to do that to a certain level character, they can't be assumed to be capable of that.
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Yeeaaahhhhh No. That's not how hax works.
If a character is Low 2C and has hax, then to assume they don't work on someone else on their level without feats shows zero knowledge on hax.

Affecting a Low 2C while not being Low 2C takes evidence yes, but a Low 2C having hax that doesn't work on another is nonsensical and wrong.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying we can't assumer he can.
 
Time Baby isn't that impressive tbh.

Also, it takes more energy to create than to destroy, so I'm pretty sure X is inherently stronger.
 
And that's exactly why you're wrong, I'm well aware of what you said.

Tell me, does a Low 2C with abilities not being able to affect a Low 2C without resistance not sound nonsensical? We can assume he can through common sense.
 
TeenAngel101 said:
I agree on the Hax thing. However, Alien X's is potent enough to recreate the universe and completely alter reality, changing the art style for the series as a whole.
I'm pretty sure this is more impressive than anything Restrained Bill did.
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Bill one shot time baby, who has universe+ Durability do to having dominion over the entire space time continuum.
 
Again, Time Baby is not that impressive. And Alien X recreated the universe after it was completely destroyed, which makes him more powerful as it takes more energy to create than to destroy.
 
Gargoyle One said:
And that's exactly why you're wrong, I'm well aware of what you said.
Tell me, does a Low 2C with abilities not being able to affect a Low 2C without resistance not sound nonsensical? We can assume he can through common sense.
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Logic>common sense
 
A Low 2-C being unable to hax to death another Low 2-C without feats of doing it makes sense tho.
 
Also, creation=destruction for reality warping feats purpose
 
That's baseline Low 2-C, no? Bill is above that as he one shot a Low 2-C
 
Kaltias said:
That's baseline Low 2-C, no? Bill is above that as he one shot a Low 2-C
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?

You're forgetting that Alien X's feat was very casual. If Alien X was baseline then he wouldn't have stomped the Dragon Ball Low 2-C's. Bill no longer has Mid Godly regen witch makes this all the more difficult. Time Baby is a baseline Low 2-C going off of statements within the show and such. Both are probably on a similar level power wise.

Then again Alien X still can't put him down thanks to Type 4 Imortality and Non-Corporeality. And a host of other abilities Bill has.

I'd give this to Bill with Mid-High diff
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
Kaltias said:
That's baseline Low 2-C, no? Bill is above that as he one shot a Low 2-C
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?
You're forgetting that Alien X's feat was very casual. If Alien X was baseline then he wouldn't have stomped the Dragon Ball Low 2-C's. Bill no longer has Mid Godly regen witch makes this all the more difficult. Time Baby is a baseline Low 2-C going off of statements within the show and such. Both are probably on a similar level power wise.

Then again Alien X still can't put him down thanks to Type 4 Imortality and Non-Corporeality. And a host of other abilities Bill has.

I'd give this to Bill with Mid-High diff
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No matter how casual the feat was, we're not allowed to scale past that.
 
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