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Mewtwo vs Kratos

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So...Gar's match kinda inspired me to make this. High 6-A for both.

Remember how on OBD, Kirby's profile said "He's pink, but still manlier than Kratos"?

Well, pink and actually Kratos

Kratos gets a chance to take out his anger.

Mewtwo is in his Y form, while Kratos is in whatever makes him High 6-A.

Speed equal.

Kratos Render
150Mewtwo-Mega BW anime
 
Kratos is immune to telekinesis and Mind Manipulation. Persephone tried it, didn't work. That's Mewtwo's main hax, so there's that.

Also, M1 Mewtwo is Multi-Continent level...for being stronger than three Country-busters? What?
 
Gargoyle One said:
Imma have to ask how good Persephone's Mind Manipulation is
It worked on Hades and Atlas.

Regardless, Kratos can't be mind-manip'd because of his past. He simply snaps out of it.
 
They don't have resistance so of course it works on them.

What's Mewtwo's mind feat again?
 
  • After having flown away, mind wiped everyone involved in M1.
  • Could've mindwiped everyone involved in Mewtwo Returns
  • A small bit of his influence made some butterflies capable of mind wiping all of Team Rocket's memories of him with Sleep Powder.
  • Turned a Nurse Joy into his puppet with a gesture.
 
What's Mewtwo's best mind manipulation feat?

All i remember is him manipulating Nurse Joy and a few rather fodder-tier Pokémon.
 
Kepekley23 said:
What's Mewtwo's best mind manipulation feat?
All i remember is him manipulating Nurse Joy and a few rather fodder-tier Pokémon.
Mind hax does not equate to tier.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Kepekley23 said:
What's Mewtwo's best mind manipulation feat?
All i remember is him manipulating Nurse Joy and a few rather fodder-tier Pokémon.
Mind hax does not equate to tier.
And Kratos has shown immunity to mind hax before.
 
But...they do. Mind haxing Hades and Atlas means nothing seeing as they lack a resistance. The power of Mind hax is mostly dictated by how many one can mind hax at the same time.
 
Yeah I'mma have to go with Mewtwo here.

Instant starting Mind Hax that bypasses Kratos's resistance along with Kratos having no way to kill Mewtwo before hand due to time resistance gives him the win.
 
Kratos is able to resist Tisiphone's mind-hax as well. Her mind-hax was enough to make several hundred prisoners lose their sanity, and due to Kratos's memories of his wife and child, he has a tendency of snapping out of mind-hax in a matter of seconds.

Also, activating the Rage of the Titans sends a short-burst wave that disrupts mindhax IIRC. This happens on GoW II in the Kraken fight.
 
Miracle Eye's immunity negation only works on Dark-types IIRC, and Kratos isn't one :)d)

Also, what are its feats?
 
You seem to think Mind hax is all Mewtwo has. That wall of text isn't for nothing. Try going through every ability on said file instead of focusing on one ability.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
You seem to think Mind hax is all Mewtwo has. That wall of text isn't for nothing. Try going through every ability on said file instead of focusing on one ability.
Mewtwo's most frequent hax is mind hax. I never said it was all he had.

I'm reading his page.

Also, what are Mewtwo's best time manip resistance feats? Kratos's time-manipulation gets better each time he uses it.
 
You should focus on all abilities.

Then address some of those powers along with Kratos' powers.

Ask Cal.
 
When can Kratos's time Manipulation, or any time Manipulation for that matter, be as good as space time resistance?

Anyway, Mewtwo had no issue using his abilities and moving in a void with no time.
 
A lot of the abilities in Mewtwo's page are mixed with his stronger forms, so i can't distinguish them.

Still, i will go through the page.

Also, Power of Hope Kratos can apparently will himself back to life. In the end of God of War III, Fear Zeus kills Kratos and he uses the PoH to revive himself.
 
Okay, so here is my analysis for Mewtwo's best abilities and how Kratos can counter them.

  • Power Absorption: What type of absorption, exactly? If it's absorbing the power of the people he has already defeated, he needs to defeat Kratos first and Kratos also has the same ability, as i've shown in the life-force post.
  • Space-Time Manipulation Resistance: Depending on how powerful Mewtwo's resistance is, that is an interesting counter to Kratos's own Space-Time Manipulation.
  • Illusion Creation: The Furies have also shown this ability, and Kratos was able to power through it and kill them.
  • Forcefield Creation: How strong is it? When empowering himself with the Power of Sparta, Kratos gains temporary invulnerability and it's enough to override Zeus's strongest attacks temporarily. With the Power of Hope, he is able to tank any attack on the game as well as overriding Fear Zeus, who is far more powerful than Zeus normally, and ifthis calc is to be trusted, Zeus can generate Small-Planet level energy with his death (should be evaluated)
  • Genius Intelligence: Kratos, while by no means a genius, is extremely well-versed in combat, and that's what matters at the end of the day (at least in this fight).
  • Energy Manipulation: The Rage of the Gods from God of War I also manipulated energy, and it granted Kratos infinite magic and invulnerablity. Since that's a NLF, it was able to tank hits from Ares. The Rage of the Titns on God of War II and the Rage of Sparta can also do this, though they do not grant Kratos infinite magic.
  • Fear Manipulation: Fear Zeus, a version of Zeus who embodied fear and tried to use it to kill Kratos, was utterly stomped and tanked after Kratos activated the Power of Hope, which is, to be honest, extremely broken in-universe.
  • Attack Reflection: Kratos's Golden Fleece can reflect almost anything in the game, including Zeus's best attacks.
  • Void Manipulation: What is described in Mewtwo's profile doesn't seem like void-manip. I'm pretty sure Void Manipulation involves existence-erasure. If we count that as a void, the Scourge of Erinys creates a dark void that sucks life-force. It also affects Thanatos, so we know it can also affect high-tiers.
I think that covers most of his abilities.

Also, Kratos's position as the God of War would likely give him the same abilities as Ares, which includes telekinesis
 
Noahkaismith said:
What's stopping Mewtwo from just ping-ponging Kratos everywhere? I vote Mewtwo for reasons above.
There are no votes so far, actually, and thus no "reasons above". People are still argumenting.
 
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