Doki Doki Literature Club Upgrades

Sayouri

Weaknesses-

She has a very deep depression, and her will is not strong enough to handle the Club President Powers without killing herself and breaking the game in the progress.

This is evidenced in the Bad Ending were you delete Monika´s data early

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H73uGdE8D6c

She can only weild the powers if she has seen that the MC has helped the other girls be happy, like in the good ending.

https://youtu.be/b9NGlbQdJVs?t=56m11s


Monika

Upgrades

Posibly Outverse Level (Might be exagerating)

(In-Game)

Monika claims someone else made a twitter account for her, and she has used that account in the real world since 2/14/2017, implying that she exists BEYOND THE GAME.

1. label ch30_10:
2. m "Did you know I'm on Twitter?"
3. m "My username is lilmonix3."
4. m "I guess someone was kind enough to make an account for me."
5. m "I picked the username, though!"
6. m "I love sharing my thoughts and chatting with the world..."
7. m "The real world."
8. m "So make sure you follow me, okay?"
9. m "It would really mean a lot to me."
10. m "With how much you mean to me and all..."
11. m "It would really make me feel loved."

Monika's Twitter : https://twitter.com/lilmonix3´╗┐

And she implies that with enough practice, you could scape the game entirely.

1. m "Hey, you remember that last poem I showed you?"
2. m "I mean, the one right before Yuri killed herself, with all the messed-up colors and stuff."
3. m "That was actually a little more of an experiment than a poem, you could say."
4. m "I was experimenting with different ways I could modify the game, and run code, and things like that..."
5. m "It almost seemed like with enough effort, I'd be able to escape from the confines of the game entirely."
6. m "Sadly, I didn't really know what I was doing, so I messed the whole thing up..."
7. m "And I'd keep trying, but I doubt you'd want to deal with me doing that."
8. m "Besides, that was when I was getting really desperate, you know?"
9. m "I don't really feel that way anymore."
10. m "I'm happy with where we are now."
11. m "And I can tell you are, too."

She also claimed she the one who wrote the Game´s main page.

Weaknesses -

She is not adept at the code, as she herself claims. So she shouldn´t be able to make use of all of her skills one hundred percent of the time, like her profile says.

Also, she did NOT master the code at any point, right before she brought (you) to the Timeless room, she could not code Yuki´s death properly.

https://youtu.be/b9NGlbQdJVs?t=8m1s


Durability-

Depends if she exists outside of the game entirely (Coding the Game´s Webpage, her Canonically Real World Twitter account and various statements).

(Possibly Outverse Level)

Or that she is a game character.

(The page claims she might have survived her deletion by the ending song, but one major detail is that that song was PRE-RECORDED, and Sayori could have made it play at the end.

There is no evidence that Monika survived (As a game character.)

https://youtu.be/b9NGlbQdJVs?t=57m56s


Now, here are the upgrades i propose.


-Sayori

New Weaknesses listed above.

Or separate her into "Bad Ending" and "Good Ending", since Bad Ending Sayori is literally uncapable of using her powers for anything but killing herself.


-Monika

(If her Twitter account and the rest of her statements are accepted, even if they are indeed statred in game and canon)

She would be Outverse Level in Durability and AP, as she literally transcended the game, and thus, ficiton.


And all references to her being good at the game´s code should be removed.

LOL.

outerversal needs more than just outside of the game really

That's literally just breaking the fourth wall. It doesn't warrant 1-A at all

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Not even close to outerversal, at all

There is nothing saying that Sayori can't use her powers. She just went mad from the revelation.

Not only is transcending fiction NOT 1-A (It would only be High 2-A here), but Monika doesn't transcend the game. That's a huge and important plot point.

Sorry for the Outverse Exxsgeration.

But alas, she does mention her twitter ingame, which would imply she eventually broke out of the game.

One thing to note is that her account was active months before the game released, which would also implied she existed BEFORE the game or was president from day 0.

And she continues to post to this day, can we really say she got deleted when this goes beyond and far before the game's storyline?


And well, the whole Sayori thing was just especulation.

but wasn't she able to be deleted by the player/protag though?

It's possible that she did it while staying in the game. Also, it's made quite clear that she only understood the Fourth Wall earlier in the game. She didn't "exist" before that.

Even then, existing outside of the game, but still, in a virtual way, isn't upgrade worthy. White Face did the same thing casually but he's still 2-C.

The Twitter account really doesn't make sense considering the game's timeline. I'd suggest not using it to "prove" anything unless we get more info that confirms stuff.

Sayori explicitly states "This can't be all there is.", implying that she's going mad because of 4th wall knowledge, not because of her powers.

Since the issues seem to have been answered, should we close this thread?

I'd rather see if Monikaforever has anything else to add. If not, I guess I'll close it.

Okay.

@Saikou

It was still stated in game.

And her twitter was active before the game was even released.


I think thats enough proof to have her exist outside the game imo

TISSG7Redgrave said:

but wasn't she able to be deleted by the player/protag though?

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Then who is running the twitter profile?

Who wrote the webpage?

It is just metafiction. We cannot gauge her as a real world human being just because one of the game writers took a joke too far.

See here: Reality - Fiction Interaction

We should probably close this.

Alright, then-


Sorry for the trouble.

No problem.