Homura vs. Lavos

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

It's time. Can Lavos put an end to Homura's insane win streak?

Both at 2-A.

Dream Devourer Lavos.

Speed Equalized.

I'm sorry if this is a stomp but that's what happens when you make matches with haxed characters at 11 pm.

vs.

death by Nullification

Theglassman12 · Oct 16, 2017

Lavos should take this via more versatile hax to use than Homura.

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

Posting this before someone else can.

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

Theglassman12 said:
Lavos should take this via more versatile hax to use than Homura.

Elaborate on more hax.

Theglassman12 · Oct 16, 2017

Do I really need to when you can just look at both of their profiles to see for yourself?

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

Theglassman12 said:
Do I really need to when you can just look at both of their profiles to see for yourself?

Yes. You have to be specific with your reasoning or I won't count your vote.

Theglassman12 · Oct 16, 2017

I linked both of their profiles for you. You can look for yourself.

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

Theglassman12 said:
I linked both of their profiles for you. You can look for yourself.

I'd prefer you tell me what hax Lavos has that homura doesn't have any way of beating. For the sake of if the links don't work for whatever reason. That snd more haz doesn't always matter if the other persons has one hax that counters most of them ir something like that. It's just how I do things especially given how controversial these two can be sometimes. Sorry.

Theglassman12 · Oct 16, 2017

Ok, I'll just show them here to back up my claim.

Homura: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Firearm and Missiles Mastery, Magic, Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Time Travel, Technological Manipulation, Immortality (Type 2 and 6 [Though the latter should not come up in combat], Type 8 when inside her labyrinth [Depends on the labyrinth's existence]), Forcefield Creation, Weapon Creation, Preparation, Flight, Healing, Telepathy, Telekinesis, Transformation, Power Drain, Magic Sensor, Weapon Enhancement, BFR and Portal Creation (Through sending people to her shield's Pocket Universe), Time Paradox Resistance (Through contact with her shield), Energy Projection, Teleportation via Space Leap, Becomes stronger once critically hurt, Resistance to Mind Manipulation, Magic, Life Absorption, and Status Effect Inducement | Likely all previous abilities other than Time Manipulation, Time Stop, and Time Travel abilities, (Though in Wraith Arc, she does eventually regain them), Memory Manipulation, Can pierce through Barriers with her Magical Arrows | Likely all previous abilities but enhanced, Transformation, Familiar Summoning, Reality Warping, Memory Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation | All previous abilities, but enhanced, Soul Manipulation Immunity, Acausality (Only on 3-D scale), Conceptual Manipulation, Dimensional Manipulation

Lavos: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Energy Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, (copied the powers of Magus), Forcefield Creation, Time Manipulation, Flight, Fire Manipulation, Vibration Manipulation (via Annihilation Zone), Water Manipulation (Via Water Surge and Nereid Cyclone; copied all of Hekran's powers), Air Manipulation and Vacuum Wave attacks (Copied Masa and Mune), Light Manipulation (with Annihilation Ray and Heavenly Tears), Explosion Manipulation (via Doors of Doom, Shadow Doom Blaze and Blanket Bomb), Absorption, Energy and Magic Absorption, able to reduce and negate magical defenses, attack absorption and barriers with the powers of Masamune, Time Travel and Rewind (Schala's pendant powered by Lavos could send Kid back in time, and reversed time if Kid got in danger), Teleportation (can teleport itself or teleport large objects such as boulders), Technological Manipulation (copied the powers of the Dragon Tank and the Guardian, can construct perfect replicas of machine extensions, controls the Mammon Machine which transforms several types of energy into attack power), Immortality (Type 1 and 2, can keep fighting even as a fragment of its core), Body Control (Can separate its "mouth" to attack and like its spawn, can survive as just that. Its inside is much bigger than its outside), Power Mimicry (able to copy the entire skillset of a target by looking at any point in Time. Copied beings include lifeforms that were extinct, Magus, beings that were already destroyed and machines that weren't even created yet. Is also able to copy servants and summons of the target to act as extensions of its being), Status Effect Inducement (can induce chaos via Chaos Zone/Confuse, wears down and drains the opponent's vitality with Sap, drastically decreases defenses with Sleep, Slows down with Unholy Light, completely Immobilizes with Stop), Sleep Manipulation, Healing, Regenerationn (Mid-Low; Can regrow arms as Lavos Body), Poison Manipulation (via Umbral Embrace/Shadow Slay), Perception Manipulation (Can inflict blindness), Resurrection (Can bring itself from alternate timelines and being wiped from existence just sent it to the Darkness Beyond Time), Power Nullification (With Omnilock, which permanently shuts down the ability to use any techniques or items; can't be cured and bypasses immunities), Electricity Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation, Pocket Reality Manipulation (Its presence alone created a spatiotemporal rift to fight in), Earth Manipulation, Duplication (Its final form split into 3 targets), Healing, Statistics Amplification, Mind Manipulation and Control (mind-controlled Queen Zeal while sleeping beneath the waves. The Masamune in Chrono Cross, which is the same one empowered by Lavos' energy, causes those who touch it to go insane with killing intent), Psychokinesis and Telepathy (copied from Azala, can be used to inflict Sleep), Durability Negation with Demon Star (cuts the opponent's life energy in half), BFR (Can send others to different points in space and time, to the end of time or to non-existence in the darkness beyond time), Danmaku (Via Rain of Destruction), Acausality, Soul Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation, Regenerationn Negation (Bypasses Mid-Godly; Can kill someone on a level where only the Chrono Trigger can bring them back in a verse with resurrection, afterlives, spirits, nonexistent sentient beings, etc.), Portal Creation, Can void immunities, Informatio and Biological Manipulation (Is directly responsible for the evolution of all lifeforms on the planet), Reactive Evolution, Empathic and Morality Manipulation (Made the kind Schala want to destroy existence. Can also inflict the Berserk status. Touching the Frozen Flame, a fragment of Lavos, messes with their personality and becomes an arbiter), Homing Attack, Gravity Manipulation, Matter Manipulation (On a molecular level), Magic, Power Drai (Drained Magus' powers with a casual attack), Illusion Creation, Age Manipulation (The Frozen Flame, a fragment of Lavos, is the reason Schala was "cloned" into the much younger Kid), Blood Manipulation, Sealing (can seal and unlock Portals as well), and Resistance to Soul Manipulation (Everyone can attack souls, and no one gets one-shot from it, especially Lavos) | Same, plus Memory Manipulation, Reality Warping, Dream Manipulation (can consume intangible constructs such as thoughts, dreams and memories) across timelines, higher energy absorption (Drains all the energy from the target - can drain magic users, non magic-users (such as Ayla) or even machines such as Robo who do not wield Magic when physically attacked), Magnetism Manipulation (Schala, part of the Dream Devourer at this point, caused a cross-temporal magnetic storm), passive absorption of Magic and Energy Attacks to heal itself (as well as elements which include Light, Lightning, Dark, Fire and Water), counters attacks with Chaos Zone, Can BFR to 2-D, Regenerationn (Mid-Godly, came back even after being erased to the Non-existence of the Darkness Beyond Time), Non-Corporeal (Exists in non-existence), Existence + Nonexistence Erasure (Did this to several individuals, places, and timelines

Lavos can copy Homura's entire moveset, make all of her immunities non-existent, his BFR is much more effective than Homura, can manipulate matter on a molecular level, has arguably better Acausality than Homura since hers is on a 3-D scale, Erase her from existence, adapt to whatever she throws at him, negates durability, and can create a pocket dimension with his presence, making Homura's BFR practically useless since he can just go back to his own pocket dimension instead. Is that a good enough reason?

The_Wright_Way · Oct 16, 2017

Vote counted.

Kaltias · Oct 16, 2017

"Lavos can copy Homura's entire moveset" Doesn't work against someone who exist outside of space-time because it's literally based on looking at a target at a different point in time

"make all of her immunities non-existent" Show me him soulscrewing a soulless being

"can manipulate matter on a molecular level" Her profile literally states that it wouldn't kill her

"has arguably better Acausality than Homura since hers is on a 3-D scale" he does, but the 3D thing is outdated anyway

That said, this match was already made an deemed redundant/a stomp. "But it was the TD" Only difference is higher degree of 2-A and Fate Manipulation, the former doesn't change much and the latter is useless here anyway

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