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Are we going to add the new Goku form or what else?
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New Form Goku
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What does it even look like?
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a2/98/55/a29855dde1287b53212a95cce6277051.jpg.
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Trying to mellow-off my hype from watching the best episode Super for me hands-down. Disregarding the fact that this has now became one of my favorite Dragon Ball episodes ever, I think pre-cognition is safe to put in his profile.
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It shouldn't be Pre-Cog. Ultra Instinct just makes it so he moves without thinking. There is no foresight and no futures/danger sensing. His body reacts on it's own. If you need to react then it's not Pre-Cog. Just add in that Goku's body can react without him knowing. But go more in depth imo, because it's very unique, just not Pre-Cog levels.
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this causes a bunch of new problems
isn't "reaction speed" generally gauged by the amount of time information takes to go from the brain to the limbs?
this new form has no "reaction speed" because its basically the body moving instantly on its own. how does one define whether or not goku can "react" to someone with better speed feats/scaling than him now? considering he's not really..reacting..anymore
isn't "reaction speed" generally gauged by the amount of time information takes to go from the brain to the limbs?
this new form has no "reaction speed" because its basically the body moving instantly on its own. how does one define whether or not goku can "react" to someone with better speed feats/scaling than him now? considering he's not really..reacting..anymore
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Infinite reaction speed?
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But this is due to his body reacting without him knowing. It's not Pre-Cog by definition, it's his body doing the reacting for him. There is no foresight happening. It's as if his body has it's own mind that reacts for him, thus it's not Pre-Cog by definition.Therefir said:
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Because Whis hasn't been in a serious fight and Goku is showing us what it can do in a serious battle.
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It was also noted in the episode that it wasn't just his dodging that was affected but his attacks too.
Kinda obvious considering this form is stronger then SSB kaiokenx20
Kinda obvious considering this form is stronger then SSB kaiokenx20
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reactive evolution and precog seems fine (Infinite attack speed since when...he needs to ignore distance like the instant he launches a fist it hits...)
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Well he did seemingly go from the crater to kicking jiren in an instant, from his own point of view he was in one place then he wasnt, he even took himself by suprise.
That or he blitzed himself.
That or he blitzed himself.
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I should note i dont agree with infinite reactions but there is an example of that seemingly happen at the start.
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if his body is moving immediately without the brain being involved ,it means he can react to anything in theory since his body would just adapt and automatically react as fast or as slow as the opponent is attacking.
it could be faster than the attosecond flash needs to think for example. since that process is just eliminated altogether
this is just reaction speed of course, not overall combat speed or travel speed.
it could be faster than the attosecond flash needs to think for example. since that process is just eliminated altogether
this is just reaction speed of course, not overall combat speed or travel speed.
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Hos body doesn't need to think right, but his body can't suddenly move at infinite speeds.
If you didn't have to think about it, your body still couldnt dodge a bullet.
If you didn't have to think about it, your body still couldnt dodge a bullet.
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Moving and reacting completely based off your body and not your thoughts is a pretty common thing in Martial Arts media. Goku does not have infinite reactions.
I don't know about precog. His body is just doing the reacting, right? Reactive Evolution seems fine, though.
I don't know about precog. His body is just doing the reacting, right? Reactive Evolution seems fine, though.
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well he would be able to move without thinking but can only move at a certain speed.
An example is if a king piece in chess can move without thinking instantaiously but will still get captured regardless due to being in checkmate.
An example is if a king piece in chess can move without thinking instantaiously but will still get captured regardless due to being in checkmate.
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Is it?Promestein said:
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@Megamangohan That's... not how it works.
@Ever Yeah, I'm pretty sure? Similar things are legitimate concepts in martial arts
@Ever Yeah, I'm pretty sure? Similar things are legitimate concepts in martial arts
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The short, simplified version of this technique is that Goku's body automatically reacts to threats, regardless if he can see them coming or have the cognitive ability to avoid it. However, as it's not speed-based, Goku can still be blitzed by faster opponents.
This isn't directed at anyone, it's just a simple way of explaining it.
This isn't directed at anyone, it's just a simple way of explaining it.
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Why is "Get stronger everytime you get hits" is Reactive Evolution?
I think it look more like Statistics Amplification
I think it look more like Statistics Amplification
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because you grow in the power because of something statistic amplification is just to boost stats but not grow
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Goku didn't get stronger by the transformation. Jiren is stronger. The thing is that Goku can dodge everything that Jiren throws at him (he literally didn't hit Goku until his form ran out) and meanwhile he's agile enough to damage him.
Also something to add is that Goku managed to survive a black hole. There's no need to scale his durability anymore as this is a consistent durability feat.
Also something to add is that Goku managed to survive a black hole. There's no need to scale his durability anymore as this is a consistent durability feat.
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