Zilla Jr downgrade

[Gallavant]

To make a case for 7-B Zilla Jr:

-47 Gigatons (Island Level) is very much beyond anything else seen in the series.

-The feat itself is inconsistent in portrayal, the storm clouds don't even reach the horizo. Nor does the boat venture out very far into the "open ocean" before the clouds disappear from sight. The distance from shore in the following two scans is just seconds after the "drive them out to sea" statement:

https://i.imgur.com/M79yreJ.png

https://i.imgur.com/2KlIdIW.png

And land is still visible!

-A different character notes that he's "never seen storm heads move in so fast". Which, as a discrepency, already disqualifies in itself the use of a natural model for the storm. (1600 kilometers)

To quantify anything more than what is being shown here is a huge outlier for the series overall, as the same character who said Zilla Jr couldn't survive a volcanic eruptio is the same one saying that Zilla JR created a warm front.

For a replacement we have a range of "At Least Small City Level" to just City Level. The island destroyed from the eruption was around 2 - 4 km accross which wasn't very big in terms of area.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gallavant/Zilla_JR's_Thunderstorm_Feat

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Gallavant/Godzilla_The_Series_-_Volcanic_Eruptio

 

[DMB_1]

Seems fine.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Same

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Yeah ok, seems good.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Also, sidenote, why do we use fanart for the Monster profiles, and specifically fanart that is explicitly a redesign?

When there exists official art for every monster?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Not if the original art is available.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Is the official art not available?

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Which profiles are you referring to?

 

[Creaturemaster971]

Crustaceous Rex, Mutant Rat

I think that's it.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

Neither seem to be redesigns but I would suggest having them changed.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

If people agrees with it, then I don't see problem.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Isn't his lifting strength also an outlier? He gets trapped or stuck in stuff far lower than the calced amount. In one episode he got his head stuck in a bridge for a couple minute for example.

 

[Kiryu-MG3]

@Gallavant How you know the island was 2-4 Km?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should use the Godzilla (Universe) page and the Knowledgeable Members List to find people to ask to comment here.

 

[Gallavant]

@Gallavant How you know the island was 2-4 Km?

Building -> mountain top -> island scaling iirc.

In any case one fragmented mountain does nothing to suggest 64 Gigatons..

 

[Kiryu-MG3]

Then is ok I think.

 

[Gallavant]

Its this shot. One volcano. Nothing thats reasonably too huge.

http://i.imgur.com/fMecNHS.jpg

 

[Kiryu-MG3]

Thank you. Would you help me with the roar calc?

 

[Gallavant]

Thank you. Would you help me with the roar calc?

Dunno how to convert sound to joules, or if its possible. Not sure if I can do this one

 

[Kiryu-MG3]

Ok thanks.

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

bump...? Is this necro?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Has to be over a month to be considered Necro iirc

 

[HeadlessKramerGeoff777]

That is what I thought, thanks

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that this seems to make sense, but you should use the Godzilla (Universe) page and the Knowledgeable Members List to find people to ask to comment here.

It is probably best if somebody asks WeeklyBattles, and any other staff members listed there.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I agree with the changes

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I agree as well, Zilla was outright curb stomped by Godzilla and shouldn't really scale from anyone really.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Then this should probably be fine to apply.

Which profiles need to be updated?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Literally every single one from the animated series to my understanding.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Is anybody experienced willing to handle it?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Its not hard as much as long really.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Godzilla

Cyber-Godzilla

Crustaceous Rex

El Gusano Gigante

Nanotech Creature

Cryptocledius

Crackler

Mutant Bee

Quetzalcoatl

Ice Borer <- Needs unlocked

Loch Ness Monster

Robo-Yeti

King Cobra

Giant Bat

Giant Mutant Widow Spider

Chameleo

Techno-Sentient

DNA Mimic

Bacilus

 

[Qawsedf234]

19 profiles need to be updated and one was seemingly missed when the Godzilla unlocking thread finished

 

[Antvasima]

I will unlock the Ice Borer for you. Thank you for the help.

 

[Qawsedf234]

I'll do them when I get the chance (assuming no one else does). I'm currently busy at the moment.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. No problem.

 

[Qawsedf234]

For refrence the tier is "At least Low 7-B, likely 7-B" right?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I though Gallavant's calcs were not going to be used in this wiki again?

Or they're accepted?

 

[Qawsedf234]

They both have to be accepted first yeah, but neither seem wrong to my knowledge. The current calc is definitely a massive overestimation of the feat and a outlier either way.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok then. Someone can ask any calc member first to evaluate the calc?

 

[Antvasima]

I thought that calc group members had already accepted the calculation. If not, you can ask some of them to evaluate it.