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About that statement, I'm pretty sure it's a mistranslation.DarkDragonMedeus said:Oh yeah, that was the theoretical 2-B scan I've been hearing about. Though, reading the context, those other millions of alternate realities appears to be something the Golden Goddesses didn't participate in. They created them by accident due to the existence of time and space travel and causality loop shenanigans. It appears they intended to create one, but ended up creating others as a chain reaction. And they created Majora who created Termina could be another way to interpret that.
Oof to what actually and can I also have the thread for it so I can be up to date on it?ZephyrosOmega said:Timeless voids are getting revised
the only thing that can rival one peice of the triforce is the light force and life force (its divine energy grantee by God's to hylians) meaning Vaatis feat wouldn't even be an outlier.
Mm... I don't recall seeing that in the games, but to be honest, my memory isn't 100% fresh on the games right now, so far all I know, you're most likely correct. However, I don't think that detracts from my main point. There are different things that, in principle, a Triforce-user could do to stop anyone from defeating them. And I think that this generality is the crux of my argument regarding the inconsistencies.ZephyrosOmega said:Not gonna mess with most of that, but I should note that the master sword repels the triforce's powers and Ganondorf is as arrogant as all hell, which is probably why he doesn't just EE link or the sword.
I think this makes sense. Although, I think "likely" would be more appropiate.ZephyrosOmega said:I don't think 2-B is applicable to anyone, no.
@Medeus @Elizhaa so "At least 3-A, pssibly Low 2-C" is fine, then?
yeah, I'm certain it doesn't affect the upgrades. It was just part of an example to illustrate a generality that supported a different point I made earlier. But that was "settled,", so it definitely isn't an important detail now.Dust Collector said:Isn't the thing about the Master Sword repelling the Triforces powers only from a mistranslation in the ALTTP manual? I recall the orignal japanese text saying the people just went looking for/found the Master Sword to fight against the one (Ganon) who obtained the Triforce, and I don't remember anything in Skyward Sword about the MS being made to counter the Triforce, just that it was made to **** up Demise and demons in general. Not that it matters since it wouldn't affect the upgrades at allcan't wait to make Ganondorf vs Dracula.
The first war was between Demise and the 3 GG'S and the demon king shouldn't be at least be possibly comparable to one of them? PS. Nice job for have found this!AshenCrow777 said:Also Demise might predate the creation of the Loz multiverse since I'd you see the Chart Heaven and the underworld (hell) predates the creation of Loz multiverse that's why many demons and Demise himself are stated to be timeless by Fi.
Kami no ichizoku no nagaki urami... Waga chikara wo kaihou suru yorokobi... The flowing hatred towards the Gods' Tribe... The joy which comes with the release of my power... The hate for the gods that has boiled in my veins...
Because they work to destroy the world, they're logically the enemies. But why? Why does Demise want to destroy the world and bring it all to chaos? He hates the gods, it can be inferred he wants to destroy their creation. But isn't he one of their creation too? Odds are that no: as a matter of fact, odds are that he preceded the world created by the Golden Goddesses:
õ©ûÒü½ÒÇÇþÉåÒü¬ÒüÅÒÇüÕ梵£¬ÒüáÒÇÇÕ¢óÒü¬ÒüòÒüÜÒÇé When there was no reason in the world and life did not yet have form. Before time began, before spirits and life existed... µÀÀµ▓îÒü«Õ£░ÒÇÇÒâÅÒéñÒâ®Òâ½Òü½ Ú╗äÚçæÒü«õ©ëÕñºþÑ×ÒÇüÚÖìÞç¿ÒüÖÒÇé Three great golden goddesses descended to the land of chaos that was Hyrule. Three golden goddesses descended upon the chaos that was Hyrule...
So, how do we know Demise preceded this world, that he existed in the chaos that was going to be made into Hyrule? Well, we can thank Fi and her endless babbling for that:
Fi on Demise: Toki wo koe zettaitekina sonzaitoe aritsutsuketeiru ma no kongen desu. A totally overwhelming existence which has overcome Time itself and is the origin of the ever-so-present "Demons"...
Fi's Comment on Staldra: This is a snake monster from before the dawn of time.
Quite simply, Demise existed before time itself came into existence. So anyways he OBVIOUSLY DO NOT SCALE TO THE 3 GG'S but at least that explains his obsession why he is sooo hell bent on surpassing them and killing them,it explains why Fi says certain demons existed before the dawn of time, it also sheds some more light on the situation of why he was gunning for the triforce and why the 3 GG'S gave it to Hylia to safe guard it.
The very first war wasn't between Demise and Hylia it was between Demise and the 3 GG'S but they didn't think it would be worth to interfere since they gave Hylia and proto Hylians the Triforce.
So should Demise be viable for having infinite speed since he predates time itself? No ******* idea.
Do you have a link to that, incidentallyDarkDragonMedeus said:Actually, it was recently confirmed to be more canon than Hyrule Historia.