Zagreus VS High Priest

[Offin]

Zagreus

VS


High Priest (Full Power)


Both are high 1-C ver.


Speed equal and SBA

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Acausality lololololololol

 

[Offin]

Acausality lololololololol

Let me know your thought.

This is a stomp match?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Staying neutral.

The only thing I know about each side:

Magic Gods have godly Probability Manip

Zagreus has Acausalities

Would rather wait for the Knowledgeables to explain how HP cam get past the Acausalities.

 

[Stocking.exe]

I guess at least HP can't deal with Zageyo Acausality

 

[Eganergo]

Why would acausality help him?

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Weren't Acausality (Especially Type 2 and 4) the bane of things like Fate Manip?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Probability Manip is essentially Fate Manip but to a lesser degree, so yeah

Also, spite

 

[SpookyShadow]

Magic Gods are going to have Fatehax iirc

 

[Eganergo]

Magic Gods are going to have Fatehax iirc

They already have it the last time i checked.

Anyway MG are capable affecting those with fate/prob resistance on their level that is basically no different from immunity. If that can't get past acausal type 4, then it won't work. Though High Priest can still one-shot by existing.

MG should have acausal too for not being affected at all by Othinus, but that's for later. Though i heard, MG are going to be upgraded to 1B.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

They can?

Can you show me the... um... "Resistance Chain"?

I'm quite intrigued by the "brokenness" of they Probab Manip.

 

[Eganergo]

They can?

Can you show me the... um... "Resistance Chain"?

I'm quite intrigued by the "brokenness" of they Probab Manip.

The weakest is Othinus who can do simmilar thing but infinitely weaker than even the weakest true gremlin MG. In the hidden realm, there are many MG other than High Priest who can affect each other if they want to.

 

[Offin]

I heard Zagreus can resist various of 1-B haxes from other characters in Doctor Who verse.

Also, both are borderline High 1-C, but I still don't know how did HP become 1st place of strongest High 1-C while Zagreus has been living on this wiki for a long time.

 

[Axscell]

I heard Zagreus can resist various of 1-B haxes from other characters in Doctor Who verse.

Also, both are borderline High 1-C, but I still don't know how did HP become 1st place of strongest High 1-C while Zagreus has been living on this wiki for a long time.

Not really. The true MGs are infinitely above baseline High 1-C. That's way above borderline...if that even means anything in this case

 

[SpookyShadow]

Magic Gods are far above baseline, I've seen even a guy once who wanted to upgrade them to 1-B

 

[Accelerate420]

MG's resist: Acausality hax (I'm not sure of the types as I haven't see it on this site) Soul and Mind hax (They are able to look at Chimera without their soul and mind burning) Probability/possibility hax (they are constantly at a passive 100% favor of everything and every action they perform due to them just existing, so you cannot affect their probability) Fate hax (They can control destiny but this can be countered by acausality, as you know) and basically are immune to whatever else they can manipulate as MG's can only stalemate other MG's.

 

[Accelerate420]

I heard Zagreus can resist various of 1-B haxes from other characters in Doctor Who verse.
Also, both are borderline High 1-C, but I still don't know how did HP become 1st place of strongest High 1-C while Zagreus has been living on this wiki for a long time.

What? MG's aren't even Borderline High 1-C, lmao. They're at the peak of it as 11-D space can't even contain their powers properly, hence why 11-D space can be destroyed by them moving an arm by accident. They are infinitly above High 1-C.

Also I was memeing about 1-B, that's not happening.

Edit: I misread. ignore this, as I shouldn't be debating at 8 AM in the morning. My bad.

Unless by borderline you mean just managing it, then that's wrong, yeah.

 

[Eganergo]

Damn, i thought they're really going to be 1B.

 

[Offin]

According to Dimensional Tiering - infinitely above baseline dimension can't be reached higher-dimension, Example 4-D power should logically always be superior to infinite 3-D power.

Also, Borderline = already infinitely above baseline tho.

 

[Axscell]

According to Dimensional Tiering - infinitely above baseline dimension can't be reached higher-dimension, Example 4-D power should logically always be superior to infinite 3-D power.

Also, Borderline = already infinitely above baseline tho.

Oh, my mistake then. I thought by borderline, you meant barely reaching a certain level. In that case then yeah, they are borderline High 1-C

 

[SpookyShadow]

Actually I think someone tried to upgrade To Aru to 1-A, on Discussion Rules there's section saying that To Aru will not be upgraded to 1-A by any means

 

[Accelerate420]

To Aru will be 1-A in Part 3 anyways.

 

[Offin]

MG's resist: Acausality hax (I'm not sure of the types as I haven't see it on this site) Soul and Mind hax (They are able to look at Chimera without their soul and mind burning) Probability/possibility hax (they are constantly at a passive 100% favor of everything and every action they perform due to them just existing, so you cannot affect their probability) Fate hax (They can control destiny but this can be countered by acausality, as you know) and basically are immune to whatever else they can manipulate as MG's can only stalemate other MG's.

The main point is Zagreus has Conceptual Manipulation (type 2) and Resistance to Conceptual Manipulation, Mathematics Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Probability Manipulation

 

[Accelerate420]

Having a resistance to HP's Probability doesn't do much since his probability also benefits himself first and foremost. To my knowledge at least. It's not like the probability is enforced onto the opponent, it's focused on the Magic God. But this fight either seems like a stomp or just another incon.

 

[Offin]

I have checked Zagreus's profile again and I found this " likely has all of the TARDIS' abilities".

Well, the TARDIS has 1-B haxes on its profile (the TARDIS can be used to defeat Quantum Archangel who was stated to freely control planes of existence on 27D scale).

This match might be another stomp?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

According to Dimensional Tiering - infinitely above baseline dimension can't be reached higher-dimension, Example 4-D power should logically always be superior to infinite 3-D power.
Also, Borderline = already infinitely above baseline tho.

What the heck are you even saying, thats irrelevant to this

There can be High 1-C's above baseline, they just cant reach 1-B via multipliers

2-As are infinite in nature and they still have "above baseline" shenaningans

 

[Offin]

Did I say something wrong? I just replied and explained to Accel0305(or one who says HP's going to be 1-B) that infinite above baseline can't be reached higher-dimension.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Ok? I believe no one said that they would be 1-B just by being above infinite baseline. They can still be above baseline tho, which MG pretty much are, they just cant reach 1-B via that alone, but they are still quite strong

 

[Eganergo]

Offin just wording it wrong, but the two of you are actually on the same page.

 

[Offin]

Ok? I believe no one said that they would be 1-B just by being above infinite baseline. They can still be above baseline tho, which MG pretty much are, they just cant reach 1-B via that alone, but they are still quite strong

I didn't even know that 1-B HP was a joke.

 

[Antvasima]

This is now a stomp thread due to upgrades. I will close it.