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Yuichi vs Hexus
- Thread starter Peter1129
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We really should be careful with Plot Manipulation based abilities as they can be very controversial over all and lead to people arguing NLF and such.
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I'm not saying this is that situation, I am just saying in general. I can see people using this to say Yuichi can beat say Hades or Akron because of his passive Plot Manipulation.
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Yuichi's ability is pretty clear cut, in neechan wa chuunibyou everyone is apart of a worldview, which is the idea that everyone lives in their own world, and there were as many worlds as there were people. Worldview's refers to the laws governing a given world.
Ryoma Nagare worldview was protagonist, basically that was his place/role in his worldview, everyone has a role in their worldview vampire, undead, student, worker etc.
Due to being the protag, ryoma was pulled into others worldview, going to different worlds to save people, girls falling for him etc, the typical isekai protag stuff.
He could enter any world view and the world itself would give him protag status, meaning he would ultimaely always win, and had plot armor as the hero can't die, can't lose etc.
This guy then learnt how to manipulate the plot itself so not only does he have protag status protecting him, he can dictate the plot. He tried to manipulate the plot to make yuichi die, it did jack nothing and he got his ass handed to him, but he was a protag and protags weren't supposed to lose, which means yuichi's role is bigger than a protag.
Then it's revealed yuichi's role is The Last One Standing: Humanity's Line of Defense. Guardian of the human-centric world we currently live in, anything supernatural, ghost, aliens, superhuman ppl etc, yuichi's role is to guard against that and protect the current human world. And as such he can always make a chance that he can win, and as such will always win.
Ryoma Nagare worldview was protagonist, basically that was his place/role in his worldview, everyone has a role in their worldview vampire, undead, student, worker etc.
Due to being the protag, ryoma was pulled into others worldview, going to different worlds to save people, girls falling for him etc, the typical isekai protag stuff.
He could enter any world view and the world itself would give him protag status, meaning he would ultimaely always win, and had plot armor as the hero can't die, can't lose etc.
This guy then learnt how to manipulate the plot itself so not only does he have protag status protecting him, he can dictate the plot. He tried to manipulate the plot to make yuichi die, it did jack nothing and he got his ass handed to him, but he was a protag and protags weren't supposed to lose, which means yuichi's role is bigger than a protag.
Then it's revealed yuichi's role is The Last One Standing: Humanity's Line of Defense. Guardian of the human-centric world we currently live in, anything supernatural, ghost, aliens, superhuman ppl etc, yuichi's role is to guard against that and protect the current human world. And as such he can always make a chance that he can win, and as such will always win.
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But like I said something like that could easily be argued as NLF. Also what does Ryoma have to do with this? They aren't apart of the same series. I am more or less interested now.
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Indeed, i am not the one arguing he beats hades or anyone like that though, just arguing that he beats hexus.
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Okay, it's just that when I hear Plot Manipulation, I know how people..well.. I know how far they'll take it. Hence why I am so cautious about characters I support with similar powers.
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Yea someone like yuichi is just begging for ppl to wank him...
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Voting for Hexus via mind manipulation and reality warping 
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Which won't work due to yuichi's plot manipulation, unless said abilities exceed a planetary scale.
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I thought he's only resistant to plot manipulation ;(
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He is resistant to plot manipulation, because his plot manipulation makes it so:
1. The same move doesn't work on him twice
2. Abilities which would cause him to lose get negated, so any instant win moves won't work on him cause his ability makes it so that he always wins.
1. The same move doesn't work on him twice
2. Abilities which would cause him to lose get negated, so any instant win moves won't work on him cause his ability makes it so that he always wins.
ABoogieYesSir
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Voting for Hexus via time manipulation, possession and soul manipulation.
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You clearly haven't read anything i just said.
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Yuichi FRA. I wish I had something to say other than that but this battle is really simple
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