Yor Briar vs Ken Masters

[Armorchompy]

Okay no, this is getting ridiculous. Are you really insinuating now that her textbook example of IR is invalid because it dosn't look impressive? The entire scan line fulfills our definition of IR to a T:
Her attention was literally somewhere else. Shopkeeper (Who is, for the third time, the chief of Garden. Hes one of the few characters that could actually murder Yor in a straight up fight) shifted her attention somewhere to something else before he attacked her. Her Attention was contextually and visually somewhere else, right before the attack could connect with her face. You can't, in good faith argue that there is enough time to make the conscious decision to dodge in that situation.
Shopkeeper literally says that she dodges that thanks to her instincs, while Yor clearly states that the attack suprised her. Its blatant, like how is this even argueable.

But the thing that annoys me the most and I'm really sorry that it does, is this opening line, like how does this knock on the effectivness of her IR? It dosn't matter how the attack comes in if you don't see the attack coming in the first place. Heck, thrusts are far harder to perceive than swings in the first place. And slight movement? is her IR now worse because she isn't doing flips or spins? Is it suddenly less impressive for a character to do proper dodges now?

Im sorry, I really am, for sounding so rambly right now, but this is just nitpicky

I missed the line about instincts, fair enough on that. The straightforward bit isn't about the attack being a thrust, it could have been a slash or something like that and that wouldn't change things, but it is something that due to her positioning it wouldn't have been too hard to avoid, all she needed to do was lean back (admittedly visuals are kinda inconsistent on the angle of the blade in regards to her position), it's a relatively simple maneuver and I would consider "instinct-ing" through a more difficult attack to dodge a better feat for obvious reasons, especially when despite being off-guard she might still have been able to somewhat perceive the attack.

So yes, I don't think the showing is too impressive, and I don't think it would inherently help too much in a fight where both fighters are both very aware of the other's movements and I wouldn't consider it too superior to just having a greatly honed sense of awareness of the situation.

 

[First_Witch]

I heavily disagree with that, the fact that she could pull that off while she was distracted and outside her combat mindset absolutly translate to her being able to do the same against a foe she has a clear vision off and is ready to kill. Like, again and again and again, I am NOT arguing that Yor is going to ultra instinct Ken into oblivion, if I were that would have been an easy W for her. What I AM arguing for is that her IR is a significant enough boon that it would equalize the advantage Ken through skill has. Nothing more.

Ugh, whatever, the arguments have been made, this is just useless rabble at this point

 

[SamanPatou]

Bump

Also, incon's at 4 votes.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Incon fra

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Count me 4 incon as well, then

 

[SamanPatou]

Bump

 

[AdNiBN002]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[SamanPatou]

Grace

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Another fight involving Street Fighter

 

[SamanPatou]

Grace ended, I'm adding the match and closing the thread.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I heavily disagree with that, the fact that she could pull that off while she was distracted and outside her combat mindset absolutly translate to her being able to do the same against a foe she has a clear vision off and is ready to kill. Like, again and again and again, I am NOT arguing that Yor is going to ultra instinct Ken into oblivion, if I were that would have been an easy W for her. What I AM arguing for is that her IR is a significant enough boon that it would equalize the advantage Ken through skill has. Nothing more.

Ugh, whatever, the arguments have been made, this is just useless rabble at this point

Oh look someone is malding, take the L as well, bozo#Run