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Introduction
The verse basically already had Logic Manipulation in a lot of ways, but it didn't exist at the time, so this will just be updating that kind of stuff.Firstly, to clarify how Logic in the verse is defined, you have to also know that it falls under something called the Great Existence of [Balance].
- It is described as the principle of all ages, the origin of all truths, and the standard of all measures, and its essence is stated to lie in the duality of “is and is not” and “can and cannot.” It allows mutually incompatible perceptions, logics, and existences to all remain correct, while providing the common ground through which irreconcilable beings and ideologies can understand one another.
- Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Morality Manipulation & Instinctive Action ([Infinity] causes all logic, karma, judgments of common sense, and instinct to utterly fail)
- Resistance to Law Manipulation will be changed to Logic Manipulation for [Infinity]
- Law Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (The Cycle of Order is akin to having an iron hammer smash down upon the world, shaping morals, logic, and principles into something entirely different)
- Law Manipulation should be changed to Logic Manipulation, and also Order and Balance are one and the same.
- Creation, Law Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Information Manipulation & Supernatural Willpower (Type 1; Initial Flames are what differentiate every form of existence from nothingness, including order and chaos, light and darkness. It can give birth to all of existence, including life, souls, wisdom, and the will to persist. It is also capable of giving names to the nameless, creating laws and logic, and giving value and purpose to existence)
- The Initial Flame created Order & Logic, so Logic Manipulation should be added to it, since this shows that laws and logic are separate things.
- Creation, Technology Manipulation, Black Hole Creation, Information Manipulation, Law Manipulation, Fate Manipulation & Causality Manipulation (Type 2; Torrents are capable of creation without limits. Whether it be machines that create singularities that ignore distance, or things such as information, logic, fate, destiny, causality, or everything else, all of it could be created as tools for them)
- Torrents can create logic and use it as a tool, so Law Manipulation should be replaced with Logic Manipulation.
- Nigh-Omniscience (The Great Path Axes are a form of logical thinking itself, supported by the Great Existences. They represent modes of thinking that have been practiced, and success is possible through following them. These Great Paths demonstrate that all wishes, thoughts, and thinking based on them are inherently ‘correct’—regardless of whether they are understood by others—since each Path is self-consistent and possesses its own theoretical validation)
- Great Paths Axes are forms of logical thinking that basically act as a framework for a large portion of the verse. It's directly stated that the PIMDA is the only place where things can exist in an orderly, structured way, regulated by knowledge, common sense, and logic, and the Axes make up the PIMDA. So they should, of course, gain Logic Manipulation.
- Probability Manipulation (Su Zhou's [Time Horn] allows him to casually select any desired possibility within space-time. If the universe is a book, he can turn its pages, write its words, flip through and alter them at will—changing the past, present, and future, creating paradoxes or erasing them entirely. It operates without regard for logic, and can accomplish anything, so long as Su Zhou is willing to bear the consequences of his choices)
- Self-explanatory, it can create paradoxes, erase them, and operate without a regard for logic, so Logic Manipulation should be added.
- Probability Manipulation (Su Zhou's [Path of Exhaustive Distance] allows him to ignore the infinite processes and possibilities that lie between what could happen and what may happen. All outcomes are reduced to a single binary logic: does he want it, or does he not—and based on that, the result is directly actualized)
- Directly stated to reduce things to pure logic, and actualize the possibilities within sed logic, so Logic Manipulation should be added.
- Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1; Joshua's [Miracle] substitutes all logic within the Multiverse. It is not as an extraordinary power or phenomenon, but an aspect that engulfs the entire Multiverse, subtly pervading everything there is while eating away at preexisting concepts)
- Directly substitutes all logic in the Multiverse, so it should gain Logic Manipulation.
| Agree: | AlipheeseXIV, Livinaa, Vietthai96 (Staff), DarkDragonMedeus (Staff), Apotheosis69 |
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