Yhwach

[Robo432343]

The Bleach hax situation is complicated ... There are a lot of unanswered questions like:
1. Can hax abilities be overcome by higher spiritual pressure?
2. Why is Uryu immune to Auswahlen?
3. How was Uryu able to land the still silver arrow?
4. Why was the Almighty unable to see Mimihagi's actions?
5. How powerful is Kyoka Suigetsu? Was it showing Yhwach an infinite variation of illusions for all future possibilities?

a lot of these questions aren't even related to the thread

 

[RoyGundam]

a lot of these questions aren't even related to the thread

I'd say 1 through 4 are pretty significant considering that the OP's proposition borders on NLF

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No. I don't just make up special resistances to suit me when I come across counter-evidence.

If a character is stated to possess Powernull or a similar ability, yet another character's powers still work on them, it means the other character simply resists that Powernull unless stated otherwise. This is common in fiction. There’s no need to create special resistances, but you still need to provide proper arguments instead of just saying, "He was affected by certain abilities despite the statement that nothing he sees with the Almighty can affect him." You want him to resist everything in the verse because of your personal preference for the Almighty and nothing else.

You’re making a hasty generalization, jumping to a big conclusion based on just a few examples.

You're using a couple of cases where some powers seemed to affect Yhwach to assume he can't resist other characters power with "The Almighty." But a few examples don’t prove he lacks resistance altogether. You’re oversimplifying and not considering other factors that might explain those specific cases.

We’ve seen Yhwach resist abilities like Ichibe’s, which are stronger(means conceptual) than regular attacks like GT or illusions from KS. This might mean KS and GT are special cases, or maybe GT couldn’t affect him because KS was already working on him, so he couldn't see a future where KS was in effect & same goes for GT. Another theory is that Aizen has Soul King fragments like Mimihagi, and the Hogyoku might have given him some resistance to The Almighty (we do know Hogyoku grants users wishes). Yhwach also seemed cautious about Ichigo’s powers, possibly because he didn’t want to risk it, which might mean Yhwach couldn’t nullify Ichigo’s abilities (he was scared to the point he needed to break it before he could use his Bankai Lmao).

Don't take it in a wrong way but there are other ways to interpret these situations instead of just repeating your personal opinions without proper arguments.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Anyway I'm unfollowing the thread. Not interested in this thread anymore.

 

[RoyGundam]

Here's another question: Ichibe's Bankai renaming technique was also activated before Yhwach regained his Almighty - how come that technique was immediately negated by Almighty, but Kyoka Suigetsu wasn't?

 

[Damage3245]

Don't take it in a wrong way but there are other ways to interpret these situations instead of just repeating your personal opinions without proper arguments.

Okay, I'll try to take it the right way.

But the point remains that I'm not convinced that the most accurate solution for the profile is to apply Resistances to all of these abilities that Yhwach has never been confronted with or shown interacting with. It's a strong No-Limits Fallacy. "If Yhwach has been shown being resistant to Ichibe's powers, that means he's equally resistant to all these other random powers". Why limit only to ones that have been used since he activated the Almighty? You could extend the argument to every single power in the verse from every single character.

 

[Robo432343]

Okay, I'll try to take it the right way.

But the point remains that I'm not convinced that the most accurate solution for the profile is to apply Resistances to all of these abilities that Yhwach has never been confronted with or shown interacting with. It's a strong No-Limits Fallacy. "If Yhwach has been shown being resistant to Ichibe's powers, that means he's equally resistant to all these other random powers". Why limit only to ones that have been used since he activated the Almighty? You could extend the argument to every single power in the verse from every single character.

its not NLF because we're only limiting it to the abilities that he knows

it was literally stated that all powers that he knows can't even be used to harm him, how can you look at that scan and say its vague

and don't bring up the aizen and ichigo argument because that has been addressed

 

[SilentBob34]

its not NLF because we're only limiting it to the abilities that he knows

it was literally stated that all powers that he knows can't even be used to harm him, how can you look at that scan and say its vague

and don't bring up the aizen and ichigo argument because that has been addressed

Ichigo used Getsuga twice right in front of him while he had the Almighty activated in episode 28 and it still worked on him later. Unless this is limited to directly what’s in front of his eyeballs then idk why the statement isn’t just Yhwach boasting

 

[Hellscream]

Ichigo used Getsuga twice right in front of him while he had the Almighty activated in episode 28 and it still worked on him later. Unless this is limited to directly what’s in front of his eyeballs then idk why the statement isn’t just Yhwach boasting

Bro watched going to the beach instead of bleach

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Damage should have his admin status revoked not gonna lie

 

[DivineAura44]

Damage should have his admin status revoked not gonna lie

Bro you good?

 

[SlendVeny]

Damage should have his admin status revoked not gonna lie

Skill issue ngl

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bro you good?

I'm sure not

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I think this can be closed, we have two staff rejecting it.

 

[GarrixianXD]

If you have an issue with a staff member then you're free to talk to HR. Unnecessarily boasting like that is not a solution.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Damage should have his admin status revoked not gonna lie

Chill out. Leave Damage alone! Stop being a bully

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Let's drop this discussion now, I don't want to see another comment regarding it.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Let's drop this discussion now, I don't want to see another comment regarding it.

Yes captain

 

[Excellence616]

It's best if this thread is closed. With the changes in the TYBW anime, it would be better when far knowledge members revise Yhwach by themselves.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

It's best if this thread is closed. With the changes in the TYBW anime, it would be better when far knowledge members revise Yhwach by themselves.

I planned on bringing this up. Iirc we had a thread that decided that the anime was what we were going to use. And while I don't expect massive changes, anything could happen that could have an impact on the specifics of the ability or scenes potentially could change/be added. Also, I assumed everyone was waiting for the general revisions for the characters as you said, the knowledgeable members, and they have plans on doing so to my knowledge.

This is not to say I completely disagree with the premise of the thread, I just assumed this was going to be handled when we had all the relevant information from the anime.

 

[Damage3245]

I'm also fine with the thread being closed for now.

 

[Hellscream]

I planned on bringing this up. Iirc we had a thread that decided that the anime was what we were going to use. And while I don't expect massive changes, anything could happen that could have an impact on the specifics of the ability or scenes potentially could change/be added. Also, I assumed everyone was waiting for the general revisions for the characters as you said, the knowledgeable members, and they have plans on doing so to my knowledge.

This is not to say I completely disagree with the premise of the thread, I just assumed this was going to be handled when we had all the relevant information from the anime.

Pretty much this, so yeah thread can be closed