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Yhwach Vs The Ginyu Force

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Faisal Shourov said:
Anime4Life2020 said:
But dont abuse it too much because it can step very far into NLF territory
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Nah, Yhwach has his limit. It's just that Ginyu can only spam ki blast and switch body. That's why desperate some DB fanboys use power level > hax to mitigate the issue
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Oh no i was speaking in general, not in this fight specifically. I already said Ywhach would beat the Ginyu Force xD

Im saying from a more in general perspective it would become an NLF if abused, otherwise we would be getting Ywhach beating tier 1's.
 
Oh no i was speaking in general, not in this fight specifically. I already said Ywhach would beat the Ginyu Force xD
Im saying from a more in general perspective it would become an NLF if abused, otherwise we would be getting Ywhach beating tier 1's.

Nah there won't be any abuse. Yhwach can't even beat Acacia from Toriko who's 5A (speed equalized or not). Anybody who's faster and has decent telepathy or time manipulation can screw him up. There are beings in Toriko who can erase souls completely. One bite from Acacia inside Back Channel and Yhwach is gone
 
^ Yhwach can use telephaty as well. Him losing is PIS to a master degree, he talked to Ichigo via telephaty miles away, and read his mind during their battle. Yet, he couldn't see the arrow. XD Time manipulation only works if they can change the past or present.
 
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Wait how is decent Telepathy going to deal with Ywhach's future manipulation via The Almighty?
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He will think he's manipulating the future when it's all illusion. Some telepaths can shut off people's mind entirely.
 
He will think he's manipulating the future when it's all illusion. Some telepaths can shut off people's mind entirely.


What's stopping The Almighty from making Yhwach immune to it?
 
HokageMangaVox said:
What's stopping The Almighty from making Yhwach immune to it?
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That's the problem, he has no feats of countering top tier telepathy (like Martian manhunter). Yhwach is good but not that good (yes I know about PIS). Silver Surfer can kill him with power cosmic and matter manipulation aka silver arrow (equalize speed and AP). There's always a bigger fish
 
That's the problem, he has no feats of countering top tier telepathy (like Martian manhunter). Yhwach is good but not that good (yes I know about PIS). Silver Surfer can kill him with power cosmic and matter manipulation aka silver arrow (equalize speed and AP). There's always a bigger fish

But Yhwach's immunity doesn't affect Martian Manhunter, but himself. Also, how is Silver Surfer gonna prevent Yhwach from reviving himself without the Arrow to stop his powers.
 
HokageMangaVox said:
But Yhwach's immunity doesn't affect Martian Manhunter, but himself. Also, how is Silver Surfer gonna prevent Yhwach from reviving himself without the Arrow to stop his powers.
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Surfer has knowledge on the silver arrow with power cosmic and can create the arrow with his matter manipulation. Dude's a walking hax machine

Martian Manhunter has affected beings like Spectre and Dr. Fate who're immensely powerful beings themselves. He can handle Yhwach's mind just fine.
 
Surfer has knowledge on the silver arrow with power cosmic and can create the arrow with his matter manipulation. Dude's a walking hax machine

Martian Manhunter has affected beings like Spectre and Dr. Fate who're immensely powerful beings themselves. He can handle Yhwach's mind just fine.

On the first thing, I agree. But on the second Yhwach can maintain himself calm and fight while seen infinite timelines, how can telephaty work on that. Wouldn't his opponent go crazy from trying to see all that knowledged?
 
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But on the second Yhwach can maintain himself calm and fight while seen infinite timelines, how can telephaty work on that. Wouldn't his opponent go crazy from trying to see all that knowledged?
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Spectre and Dr Fate are insanely strong beings (Spectre on the wiki is 2A, and Fate is 3B at worst). That's the funny thing, Marvel and DC comics are inconsistent but some weaker characters have ridiculous showings. Flash is 4C yet he has immeasurable speed feat.

Yhwach could've been able to fight on par with the bad boys I mentioned if he got more showings. Too bad Bleach got axed
 
Spectre and Dr Fate are insanely strong beings (Spectre on the wiki is 2A, and Fate is 3B at worst). That's the funny thing, Marvel and DC comics are inconsistent but some weaker characters have ridiculous showings. Flash is 4C yet he has immeasurable speed feat.

Yhwach could've been able to fight on par with the bad boys I mentioned if he got more showings. Too bad Bleach got axed

Yeah, to bad Mr. Fantastic can solo Galactus.
 
HokageMangaVox said:
Yeah, to bad Mr. Fantastic can solo Galactus.
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Mr Fantastic is the most intelligent person in Marvel (more than Dr Doom and Thanos who got Beyonder and TOAAs power). He is a credible person

BTW you want to see a counter to Yhwach? This guy can shut Yhwach's power and pawn him. Name's Mordru

http://imgur.com/u1iRW6N

http://imgur.com/a/NpjBT

And people say power level > hax lmfao
 
Mr Fantastic is the most intelligent person in Marvel (more than Dr Doom and Thanos who got Beyonder and TOAAs power). He is a credible person

BTW you want to see a counter to Yhwach? This guy can shut Yhwach's power and pawn him. Name's Mordru

http://imgur.com/u1iRW6N

http://imgur.com/a/NpjBT

And people say power level > hax lmfao

You're just trolling. Then by default Yhwach's intelligence should be infinite post Almighty and solo every verse. Lmaoo
 
HokageMangaVox said:
You're just trolling. Then by default Yhwach's intelligence should be infinite post Almighty and solo every verse. Lmaoo
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Nah it's just Reed is really smart even though the writers don't understand the concept of holding back and being rational
 
Nah it's just Reed is really smart even though the writers don't understand the concept of holding back and being rational

Is not just him. Others as well. Because in reality NLF doesn't exist is only a fan made term to keep everyone in check.
 
Considering that this match has tipped in Yhwach's favour, I will be closing this thread as it seems to be going off topic here.

This match will not be added to Yhwach's profile however.
 
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