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I know we had a lot of these disscussions, but I haven't seen one since Bleach revisions were don.What's your opinion now?
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Yhwach vs Kaguya
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I honestly still think Yhwach still hax stomps.
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If speed isn't equalized, doesn't Kaguya just blitz and disintegrate him on a molecular level with All-Ash Killing Bone before he can even look into the future?
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IIRC The Almighty is a passive ability so I'm not sure if that would do much.
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IIRC The Almighty is getting new weaknesses soon so look foward to that.
Anyway, this match is a stomp either way. With speed equal, and if having a way to get by her AP, Yhwach would hax stomp. With speed unequal, Kaguya doesn't even need ETSB to one shot Yhwach with vastly superior power.
Anyway, this match is a stomp either way. With speed equal, and if having a way to get by her AP, Yhwach would hax stomp. With speed unequal, Kaguya doesn't even need ETSB to one shot Yhwach with vastly superior power.
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How fast are they?
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If Femritters are around 1000 mach, Yhwach definitely is SoL, at least relativistic.So let's say that he is faster than Kaguya which is obvious.
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And even if Kaguya was faster I don't see how it matters, because of Almighty.
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Make a Content Revision Thread. It isn't in his profile.Galiel Elisaie said:
Kaguya is sub-rel (~At least Mach 18,000, likely Mach 27,000), so she casually blitzes Yhwach as of now.
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Not how speed scaling works, AT ALLGaliel Elisaie said:
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Yeah, Almighty's getting new weaknesses because it appears heavily dependant on NLF. It's more so probability manipulation rather than Fate Manipulation from what I heard from the Admins. And omni-precog is not entirely true as there do exist timelines Almighty can't see. Just like when Yhwach was crying his eyes out when he got surprised by Uryu's arrow. Almighty can also only manipulate short term/immediate events, not long term ones. And he cannot cause events beyond his physical limitations; another reason why Kaguya stomps.
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Kepekley23 said:
I agree, about Kaguya's speed she should be sub relativistic.And there are a lot of feats regarding Soul King's palace travels, distance and all that, but I suck at arithmetics and physics so I can't precisely calculate that.
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The most disturbing is the fact that both Soul Society arc Ichigo and EoS Ichigo are massively hypersonic+ as if Ichigo didn't get more than 8 times faster from SS arc to the end of Bleach.
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That's a lot of assumptions...DarkDragonMedeus said:
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By that logic, Dragon Ball would have already been Massively FTL+ in Buu saga. We don't consider the Ginyu Force Frieza's first form being 10x faster than Raditz, who's Relativistic on top of the whole saiyan multipliers and Goku's base form being massively stronger faster in Cell Saga and Buu saga respectively and stuff like that.
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@Galiel they came from a couple Admins, not me.
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
I am just saying how it is, seems like a lot of assumptions.However you missed the point.Dragon Ball characters' speed does rise equally with their strength, that was stated several times, Vegeta said that to Cui, Goku said that to Gohan... However I personally do not believe that Raditz is relativistic, feats which contradict scaling should be considered as outliers.Piccolo's relativistic speed feat for example.Then again, do people here really believe how EoS Ichigo is at the same speed as SS Ichigo?That seems ridiculous.And if Yfemritters are 1000 mach, especially Giselle with whome even average 11th squad shinigami could keep up with then Yhwach is at least dozens if not hundreds times faster.It's hard to believe that Bleach god tier is just 8 times faster than Bleach characters who are not even in top 50 faster.That seems like a lot of bullshit to me.Alo are we forgetting Ichigo's and Mimihagi's speed feats?
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Raditz speed feats don't at all contradict scaling in any way. So that's out.
Two no, Mimihagi speed feats are already counted on their profiles actually, its just completely unquantifiable.
Also topping it off, you're saying we don't count feats that contradict scaling, so why should we count Speed multipliers when there are no feats?
Two no, Mimihagi speed feats are already counted on their profiles actually, its just completely unquantifiable.
Also topping it off, you're saying we don't count feats that contradict scaling, so why should we count Speed multipliers when there are no feats?
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