Yarael Poof downgrade

[XXKINGXX69]

This is the 5-B calc we use

On the Yarael Poof page, it says that he's planet level for containing the energy of the Infant of Shaa, which in the blog above, is shown to be planetary. That does sound like a planet level feat, but Yarael Poof did not use striking strength or something AP related - it was just energy nullification

Yarael Poof used the force to bind the energy of it. This is just power nullification similar to defusing a bomb, not literally outputting power on that level, which is supported by the fact that it says he made the object safe. The bomb was also put at the center of Coruscant to destroy the planet via a chain reaction.

To conclude, he "contained" its power by defusing it. Not by outputting energy on that level

This feat can be used instead for high 6-A (even though there's issues with it)

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

this is already going to be covered in the upcoming star wars ctr

 

[XXKINGXX69]

this is already going to be covered in the upcoming star wars ctr

Do I look like I have time to wait

 

[Kenny Mccormick 0v0]

Will this downgrade all of planet level character in star wars?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Will this downgrade all of planet level character in star wars?

Most likely, very sure that there isn't really any planetary feat in star wars that scales to a lot of people

 

[KLOL506]

Do I look like I have time to wait

Talk about being impatient.

 

[Mephistus]

should be fine to downgrade, but there should be some care with getting the next best feat to scale off for council members and peers to replace the current ratings with

 

[KLOL506]

Like Setsuna said. The downgrades will happen eventually in an upcoming Star Wars CRT. No need to bullrush this and make things worse when an already-planned CRT will cover multiple topics and even include the new scaling chains.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Like Setsuna said. The downgrades will happen eventually in an upcoming Star Wars CRT. No need to bullrush this and make things worse when an already-planned CRT will cover multiple topics and even include the new scaling chains.

Since that CRT would have a lot of stuff to talk about, its best to talk about this now and at least agree on it, then the rest can be continued in that CRT

 

[Kenny Mccormick 0v0]

Can we used feat from star wars tales? because Padawan once perform large planet level feat in issue 14

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Yeah no, I'd rather wait for a fully constructed CRT than a rushed downgrade.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Yeah no, I'd rather wait for a fully constructed CRT than a rushed downgrade.

Except this isn't rushed, and it would be better to tackle this first so in that other CRT, the more important stuff can be focused on better. Also, who is working on the crt?

this is already going to be covered in the upcoming star wars ctr

 

[Sir_Ovens]

"Not rushed"

Ok then what is the proposed AP, should we get rid of 5-B?

 

[Greatsage13th]

Following

 

[XXKINGXX69]

"Not rushed"

Ok then what is the proposed AP, should we get rid of 5-B?

The proposed AP will be discussed in a later CRT

 

[Confluctor]

you can't be serious... at least find a replacement feat or else the entire verse will be stuck at unknown. and then later on, when fixing it, that will just create unnecessary work

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Right, so we just leave the tier and AP sections of our pages blank for the time being.

Clearly a well constructed and deeply thought out CRT.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

you can't be serious... at least find a replacement feat or else the entire verse will be stuck at unknown. and then later on, when fixing it, that will just create unnecessary work

I said in a previous comment that the new AP can be discussed later, its better to have this accepted first so its less of an issue in the other CRT

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Right, so we just leave the tier and AP sections of our pages blank for the time being.

Clearly a well constructed and deeply thought out CRT.

Yeah, its totally a better idea to wait for a CRT that isn't being worked on, will never actually be made because its just a rumour

 

[Sir_Ovens]

KING, we can't just agree that the AP is bad, and then do jack about it. We all know it's bad, that's why in the future CRT it will be addressed and adjusted accordingly. You're telling us we have a problem and providing no solution. This doesn't fix the problem in the slightest.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

KING, we can't just agree that the AP is bad, and then do jack about it. We all know it's bad, that's why in the future CRT it will be addressed and adjusted accordingly. You're telling us we have a problem and providing no solution. This doesn't fix the problem in the slightest.

You definitely didn't read what I said. Another CRT will discuss the new proposed tier changes, and this yarael poof feat is pretty controversial so its better to handle it in 1 thread. Otherwise the other thread will be chaotic and derailed forever because there's too many things to talk about and respond to

 

[Sir_Ovens]

KING, you cannot just say "remove 5-B" and not provide any replacement feat. What are we going to put on our pages until the future thread?

We know 5-B is bad. That's not the point of contention here. Removing 5-B at this juncture is moot because without it, Legends literally doesn't have a tier.

You could have at the very least brought up Nihilus' High 6-A feat as a replacement but chose to just not bring it up for some reason?

Regardless, it's better to wait for a full breakdown anyway. While the High 6-A feat is pretty solid, it doesn't fix scaling so I remain unmoved. We wait.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

KING, you cannot just say "remove 5-B" and not provide any replacement feat. What are we going to put on our pages until the future thread?

We know 5-B is bad. That's not the point of contention here. Removing 5-B at this juncture is moot because without it, Legends literally doesn't have a tier.

You could have at the very least brought up Nihilus' High 6-A feat as a replacement but chose to just not bring it up for some reason?

Regardless, it's better to wait for a full breakdown anyway. While the High 6-A feat is pretty solid, it doesn't fix scaling so I remain unmoved. We wait.

Its possible to like, not change it for now and just wait for another CRT for the new tiering proposals?

You could have at the very least brought up Nihilus' High 6-A feat as a replacement but chose to just not bring it up for some reason?

That one is also a wanked feat which I'm sure someone will talk about in another CRT

And do you at least agree with adding a note like this to star wars legends profiles as they're undergoing revisions?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Right, I'm going to leave it up to democracy on this one.

I think it's completely asinine to simply propose a change and do literally none of the work to actually make that change valid, but I'm a fair man.

If the majority agrees to just blank out the AP and tiers sections and leave the pages up there, then so be it.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Right, I'm going to leave it up to democracy on this one.

I think it's completely asinine to simply propose a change and do literally none of the work to actually make that change valid, but I'm a fair man.

If the majority agrees to just blank out the AP and tiers sections and leave the pages up there, then so be it.

At least respond to my last question

 

[Jibz]

When will the stars wars crt come out, may i ask? Is there even a rough timeframe in the works?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Its possible to like, not change it for now and just wait for another CRT for the new tiering proposals?

What is there to change? KING, you have to actually propose a change for us to do anything.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

When will the stars wars crt come out, may i ask? Is there even a rough timeframe in the works?

There probably isn't a rough timeframe because I don't think anyone is even working on one right now

What is there to change? KING, you have to actually propose a change for us to do anything.

That's not the question i was talking about

 

[Sir_Ovens]

When will the stars wars crt come out, may i ask? Is there even a rough timeframe in the works?

I don't know when it will be out since I'm out of the loop, but I trust the people who are doing the work that they will eventually come out with it.

Shin Megami Tensei's CRT took months, Elder Scrolls as well. SCP took two and a half years. I believe we can wait.

 

[Tago238]

Right, I'm going to leave it up to democracy on this one.

I think it's completely asinine to simply propose a change and do literally none of the work to actually make that change valid, but I'm a fair man.

If the majority agrees to just blank out the AP and tiers sections and leave the pages up there, then so be it.

I vote in favour of abandoning this awful CRT and waiting until one that’s actually thought out is made.

 

[Jibz]

So we could hypothetically have a completely incorrect verse for months or even up to 2 and a half years? Sheesh that's rough

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I don't know when it will be out since I'm out of the loop, but I trust the people who are doing the work that they will eventually come out with it.

Shin Megami Tensei's CRT took months, Elder Scrolls as well. SCP took two and a half years. I believe we can wait.

Ok i edited the OP for a new proposal

this is already going to be covered in the upcoming star wars ctr

which upcoming star wars crt?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I vote in favour of abandoning this awful CRT and waiting until one that’s actually thought out is made.

I edited the OP

 

[Sir_Ovens]

So we could hypothetically have a completely incorrect verse for months or even up to 2 and a half years? Sheesh that's rough

The unfortunate side effect of editing verses that have decades of history behind them.

The means justify the ends, however, as you can see they're at least up to standard now.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

So we could hypothetically have a completely incorrect verse for months or even up to 2 and a half years? Sheesh that's rough

It has happened before, as ovens mentioned

 

[Jibz]

The unfortunate side effect of editing verses that have decades of history behind them.

The means justify the ends, however, as you can see they're at least up to standard now.

whilst it pains me to have a verse based on misinfo with what could potentially be a year or more, its better to wait for a crt rather than have a verse with literally no ap. So unless KING can provide a new rating, ill have to disagree.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

whilst it pains me to have a verse based on misinfo with what could potentially be a year or more, its better to wait for a crt rather than have a verse with literally no ap. So unless KING can provide a new rating, ill have to disagree.

I already did, read the OP

 

[Jibz]

I already did, read the OP

I have, but an unverified calc isnt exactly a solution

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I have, but an unverified calc isnt exactly a solution

It is verified, we use it on the Darth Nihilus profile

 

[KLOL506]

It is verified, we use it on the Darth Nihilus profile

Planet surface razing from the ground is a High 6-A feat as per the References for Common Feats page