WWE Upgrades

[RandomGuy2345]

Gonna keep this short and sweet.

John Cena is able arm wrestle with Mark Henry, and it seemed like he was going to win before getting blindsided.

Mark Henry is able to pull 2 tractor trailers weighing 100,000 pounds (50 tons) 20 feet. This would make John Cena, as well as people comparable and/or superior to him in terms of LS, Class 50.

Mr. McMahon survives an explosion. This would make the verse significantly higher into Wall Level.

Shouldn't take too long to revise.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Mark Henry is able to pull 2 tractor trailers weighing 100,000 pounds (50 tons) 20 feet. This would make John Cena, as well as people comparable and/or superior to him in terms of LS, Class 50.

Sinse the truck is in the ground he isn't pushing the hole 100.000 pounds

 

[SamanPatou]

Sinse the truck is in the ground he isn't pushing the hole 100.000 pounds

^


Also, am I wrong or was it explained how McMahon escaped the explosion?
I don't remember that storyline very well, so I might be wrong.

 

[Hellbeast]

Wouldn't puling be less then the actual mass?
EDIT: I'd also note Mark seems really tired after this so it seems more like a limit if anything

 

[Chariot190]

for pulling/pushing pretty sure we multiply by 0.25.

 

[Pikaman]

for pulling/pushing pretty sure we multiply by 0.25.

So 12.5 tons = Class 25, still way better than the Peak Human, Possibly Class 5 ratings we have now

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah that works
We could give Henry Class 25 (butt with mention he pushed himself here) with others either getting a likely or outright Class 25 depending on scaling

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

butt with mention he pushed himself here

Don't think that matters, him pushing himself makes the feat even better as it fully depicts his stat in lifting strength, if he did that with one finger we wouldn't know he's actually stats or limit

John Cena is able arm wrestle with Mark Henry, and it seemed like he was going to win before getting blindsided.

Mark Henry is able to pull 2 tractor trailers weighing 100,000 pounds (50 tons) 20 feet. This would make John Cena, as well as people comparable and/or superior to him

So 12.5 tons = Class 25, still way better than the Peak Human, Possibly Class 5 ratings we have now

This looks fine I think

Mr. McMahon survives an explosion. This would make the verse significantly higher into Wall Level.

This looks fine as well if he actually got hit by it

I agree

 

[Hellbeast]

Don't think that matters

I mean it does, if I'm performing a feat which causes me exertion and I need several seconds to recover it's worth noting it's on the higher end of my capabilities

 

[Pikaman]

I mean it does, if I'm performing a feat which causes me exertion and I need several seconds to recover it's worth noting it's on the higher end of my capabilities

I can already think of at least 1 profile on the wiki off the top of my head that shows a character at their peak and doesn’t mention it, isn’t it kinda assumed that these are the characters at their peak for each stat? It’s more of a stamina issue than something that needs noted on his LS

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I mean it does, if I'm performing a feat which causes me exertion and I need several seconds to recover it's worth noting it's on the higher end of my capabilities

Which is what stats are for, for measuring your max capabilities

 

[Hellbeast]

I can already think of at least 1 profile on the wiki off the top of my head that shows a character at their peak and doesn’t mention it, isn’t it kinda assumed that these are the characters at their peak for each stat? It’s more of a stamina issue than something that needs noted on his LS

Then that's the flaw of those profiles, it's really not a huge addition to have a "with effort"

Which is what stats are for, for measuring your max capabilities

Yes we tend to list their peak stats but we don't ignore when it's clearly incredibly strenuous
If someone is knocked out performing a feat, we mention it for instance

 

[TheGatememer]

Neutral on the LS, but the AP seems fine

 

[Pikaman]

Then that's the flaw of those profiles, it's really not a huge addition to have a "with effort"

Yes we tend to list their peak stats but we don't ignore when it's clearly incredibly strenuous
If someone is knocked out performing a feat, we mention it for instance

Then just put a “Can over exert himself when peforming at his best LS wise” in his weaknesses when his profile gets made or smth, it’s irrelevant for Cena’s scaling anyways since Henry flips a table over seconds after the match gets interrupted

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yes we tend to list their peak stats but we don't ignore when it's clearly incredibly strenuous
If someone is knocked out performing a feat, we mention it for instance

He was able to stand up again, it's not like he got knocked out...

 

[Hellbeast]

Then just put a “Can over exert himself when peforming at his best LS wise” in his weaknesses when his profile gets made or smth, it’s irrelevant for Cena’s scaling anyways since Henry flips a table over seconds after the match gets interrupted

That's more effort then needed tbh
Really just say "Can perform this feat (albeit with exertion)"
Weaknesses aren't at all necessary since that's kind of a baseline assumption

He was able to stand up again, it's not like he got knocked out...

No but he took a good few seconds to stand up and the people around him are acting as if it did take a lot out of him
The point is that it's not something he can just do casually and is something of an upper limit for his capabilities which can be relevant in a debate encounter (say if he's grappling with a Class 25 character)

We have to make that context clear, especially since we're seemingly scaling a ton of characters to this

 

[SamanPatou]

Then that's the flaw of those profiles, it's really not a huge addition to have a "with effort"

Yes we tend to list their peak stats but we don't ignore when it's clearly incredibly strenuous
If someone is knocked out performing a feat, we mention it for instance

In this case we put At most before the rating and then explain why.

 

[Pikaman]

In this case we put At most before the rating.

Yeah this seems fair

 

[Pikaman]

it’s irrelevant for Cena’s scaling anyways since Henry flips a table over seconds after the match gets interrupted

^ though

 

[Hellbeast]

In this case we put At most before the rating and then explain why.

Yeah that works (my suggestion was to reference it in the LS but that works)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So is Henry Class 25 or Class 50 for LS?

 

[Hellbeast]

It seems like Class 25 via the pulling and not outright lifting

 

[Pikaman]

Yeah Class 25 which Cena scales to

 

[CuteAnimeNekoGirl99]

It should be safe to apply the 1.94 megajoule value given that Vince isn’t a strong character in the wwe fiction I mean he did get his ass kicked by Donald trump (1.94 megajoule Donald trump)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Is it alright to add the 1.94 Megajoules feat to the profiles now?

 

[Pikaman]

idk if there’s really been enough staff approval yet you might want to ask around for opinions

 

[RandomGuy2345]

idk if there’s really been enough staff approval yet you might want to ask around for opinions

I'll ask some staff members to come over and approve it.

 

[Psychomaster35]

These should be fine

 

[Pikaman]

So, nice upgrade for the verse in AP and LS. Sweet

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Wait, sinse the truck head wheels to help It be pushed wouldn't It make the feat even lesser?

 

[Wokistan]

Yeah, gonna have to doubt the class 50 upgrade. This plane's a little less than half the weight, but the world record lifts are the low border of class 1. Wheels are a powerful thing.

Furthermore, this doesn't really translate to arm wrestling. Most of the work here is done with the legs, and even pulling on the rope ahead for stability with the arms is not really the same muscle group used in arm wrestling.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'll add the 1.94 Megajoules feat to the profiles, but I'll avoid adding the LS feats.

 

[Pikaman]

Yeah, gonna have to doubt the class 50 upgrade. This plane's a little less than half the weight, but the world record lifts are the low border of class 1. Wheels are a powerful thing.

Furthermore, this doesn't really translate to arm wrestling. Most of the work here is done with the legs, and even pulling on the rope ahead for stability with the arms is not really the same muscle group used in arm wrestling.

It’s class 25 not 50 but otherwise I can see your point

 

[Pikaman]

So, nice upgrade for the verse in AP and LS. Sweet

I have a really bad habit of jinxing stuff and I think I’ve done it again

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Gonna need someone to unlock Big Show's, John Cena's, and Chris Jericho's profile for me so I can add the AP feat.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I have a really bad habit of jinxing stuff and I think I’ve done it again

Well, at least the AP upgrade got approved...

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Gonna need someone to unlock Big Show's, John Cena's, and Chris Jericho's profile for me so I can add the AP feat.

Can someone unlock the profiles?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Can someone unlock the profiles?

Anyone?

 

[FinePoint]

Yeah, I agree that jumping to Class 50 or 25 when it has wheels is bit of a leap.
It can still be calculated if we can estimate the coefficient of friction of the material it's being pulled over, and especially if we know exactly what kind of vehicle it is.
It won't be anywhere near as high, but might still be worth doing.

 

[Pikaman]

If it’s above class 5 then it’s an upgrade so probably worth calcing yeah