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[RandomGuy2345]

Randy Orton (WWE)

Randy Orton (born April 1, 1980) is an American professional wrestler and actor. Widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, he is currently signed to WWE. Orton is a third-generation professional wrestler; his grandfather Bob Orton, father Bob Orton Jr., and uncle...

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Perfect, though I feel like you should give a bit more clarifications in some categories.

 

[Pikaman]

Randy Orton (WWE)

Randy Orton (born April 1, 1980) is an American professional wrestler and actor. Widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers of all time, he is currently signed to WWE. Orton is a third-generation professional wrestler; his grandfather Bob Orton, father Bob Orton Jr., and uncle...

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Looks good!

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Perfect, though I feel like you should give a bit more clarifications in some categories.

ok, i will do it later

 

[RandomGuy2345]

We actually have a canonical weight for these trucks which is 55,000lbs

Big show is comparable to Strowman, they had several back and forths overpowering each other, there is also Bobby who can compete with Stroman's strength in an arm wrestling match and it was stated he had to use everything he had to beat Bobby, something that wasn't stated when he flipped the semi truck.

We also have a fairly recent statement by the big show that John Cena's LS is stronger than Brock and Goldberg, and nobody is as strong as him which puts him on Strowman's level.

This should be our discussion right now.

Anything else that needs to be discussed can go on the WWE Profiles thread.

 

[Pikaman]

This should be our discussion right now.

Anything else that needs to be discussed can go on the WWE Profiles thread.

I mean, seems simple enough to me, God Tiers scale to the feat unless its explicit they can’t compete with the rest of the tier in LS (e.g. Demon Bálor) and give any lower tiers scaling to it on a case by case basis and whether they can physically contest with the God Tiers

 

[DemonicDude]

Can The Fiend surviving this explosion give decent results ?
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[Pikaman]

Can The Fiend surviving this explosion give decent results ?
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It’s debatable how much of the explosion it was actually caught in, and it doesn’t look a bigger explosion than Mr McMahon’s Car Feat, but it’s worth checking out anyways, I’m hardly an expert in calcs, thanks!

 

[Hunterzillas]

I don't know how we treat this, if it's an outlier or anything......but it's something.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I don't know how we treat this, if it's an outlier or anything......but it's something.

Probably regeneration for R-Truth.

 

[DemonicDude]

I don't know how we treat this, if it's an outlier or anything......but it's something.

Ayyy I remember this episode, R Truth get's Regen and probably resistance to Fire manipulation..

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Ayyy I remember this episode, R Truth get's Regen and probably resistance to Fire manipulation..

Why resistance to Fire manip ?

 

[Pikaman]

I don't know how we treat this, if it's an outlier or anything......but it's something.

Well I mean, it obliterated R-Truth so it can’t really be used as a Dura feat... regen or resurrection/type 4 immortality for R-Truth though sounds good

 

[DemonicDude]

Didn't R Truth survived this and came back backstage on that same episode ? I have little memories of that episode.
He wasn't properly resurrected and his death wasn't confirmed officially either, Seems like Regen.

 

[Hunterzillas]

Does anyone have WWE for streaming, or something to go through the older episodes?

 

[Pikaman]

Didn't R Truth survived this and came back backstage on that same episode ? I have little memories of that episode.
He wasn't properly resurrected and his death wasn't confirmed officially either, Seems like Regen.

I mean, if he survived all in one piece, it’s regen AND a durability feat which can hopefully be calced

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Does anyone have WWE for streaming, or something to go through the older episodes?

WWE Network i think

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I mean, if he survived all in one piece, it’s regen AND a durability feat which can hopefully be calced

Mid-high regeneration yeah, like Deadpool but faster than him lmao (if he reappeared in the same episode.)

 

[Pikaman]

A 9-B with Mid-High regeneration

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The R-Truth stuff looks cool, but can y'all discuss it in the WWE Profiles thread?

 

[DemonicDude]

I found the Official Written Review of Raw 19th April 2010 he did not came back, WWE dropped this storyline.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I found the Official Written Review of Raw 19th April 2010 he did not came back, WWE dropped this storyline.

Well, like the storyline with Vince McMahon with the limo explosion.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Originally Vince was supposed to be dead following this explosion, but the storyline was canceled following the death of Chris Benoit.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Originally Vince was supposed to be dead following this explosion, but the storyline was canceled following the death of Chris Benoit.

@RandomGuy2345

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Originally Vince was supposed to be dead following this explosion, but the storyline was canceled following the death of Chris Benoit.

Damn.

Might have to put this in the WWE profiles thread.

 

[Pikaman]

Damn.

Might have to put this in the WWE profiles thread.

I don’t really see an issue with it, it wasn’t intended for him to live, but he did in the end, it wasn’t intended but they ultimately had him live so…

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I don’t really see an issue with it, it wasn’t intended for him to live, but he did in the end, it wasn’t intended but they ultimately had him live so…

The storyline was just canceled, it shouldn't count, and at worst it would just be Resurrection, because following the explosion Vince was totally declared dead in the storyline, they even made tributes.

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

 

[Pikaman]

While they backtracked on the storyline and decided Vince would live, they didn’t retcon that explosion to never have happened, and Vince is still standing, so the feat should count

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

"The "Mr. McMahon" character officially returned on the August 6 episode of Raw. McMahon said that he faked his death to see what people thought of him, with Stephanie accused of faking mourning while checking her father's last will to see how it would benefit her."
Vince Mcmahon wikipedia

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

Following Benoit's death, the storyline was actually changed, Vince just faked his death

 

[RandomGuy2345]

"The "Mr. McMahon" character officially returned on the August 6 episode of Raw. McMahon said that he faked his death to see what people thought of him, with Stephanie accused of faking mourning while checking her father's last will to see how it would benefit her."
Vince Mcmahon wikipedia

So he still took the explosion, but he acted like he died.

Okay. So the feat is still valid.

 

[Pikaman]

"The "Mr. McMahon" character officially returned on the August 6 episode of Raw. McMahon said that he faked his death to see what people thought of him, with Stephanie accused of faking mourning while checking her father's last will to see how it would benefit her."
Vince Mcmahon wikipedia

So… that explicitly shows that the explosion happened and the feat counts?

 

[Pikaman]

Thank God for that, considering the fix up some of the profiles need, the verse’s only calc being illegitimate could not have come at a worse time

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

So he still took the explosion, but he acted like he died.

Okay. So the feat is still valid.

Nothing tells us he tanked the explosion, it's just headcanon

 

[Pikaman]

Nothing tells us he tanked the explosion, it's just headcanon

???

He was in that car when it exploded

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

???

He was in that car when it exploded

The real Vince wasn't in it when it exploded, so in the storyline he could just have used the same ploy to fake his death, it's quite possible

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

And it's even more logical

 

[Pikaman]

I think it’s better to just take the face value explanation he was in that car instead of making assumptions about how/why he was not in a car that exploded, even though it was his own closing of the car door that triggered the blast

it’s less complex and an easier conclusion to arrive to

 

[Ser_Hakim_Dayne]

I think it’s better to just take the face value explanation he was in that car

It's just less logical. Outside of the storyline, in real life, he just used a ploy to get us, to make his character's death believable. So in the storyline he just did the same thing. To say that he tanked an explosion because he faked his death is weird and it makes less sense, especially since he was not supposed to survive it. Nothing is going your way.

 

[Pikaman]

And what ploy would you suggest? An escape? A body double? You see him in the car and you don’t see him get out. It’s weird I’ll give you that, but because he initially wasn’t meant to survive, he ended up in that blast, so when he did survive, it became a feat that was ironically never meant to happen. They didn’t really retcon it all the way back to the blast itself, just it’s consequences