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The title says it all.
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Would diavlo see dio in stop time?
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He could see the future, yes. Won't be able see what happens in time being stopped, but can see the aftermath of said action.
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Cool what would happen if he erased time at the same time dio stopped time?
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If DIO acts before Diavolo, for me, it's a GG for DIO. But Epitaph can see what would happen if Diavolo isn't careful with him not being able to act the moment he start to underrate DIO's ability. What you said... I think the erased time won't be felt by DIO but Diavolo won't be there to feel that too.
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this shouldn't be a debate at all it's actually stupidly simple to understand
with epitaph diavolo sees a point in time 10 seconds in the future, and all that's gonna show is the end result
during skipped time Diavolo would be able to see things normally basically, and neither one lets him see stopped time, with epitaph he'd just see wherever dio is after he already stopped time at some point within the 10 seconds, and with time skip he'd just watch dio suddenly teleporting as do all characters that can't move in time stop
if you mean without using his future sight, then he wouldn't see anything since it's made pretty clear that only other time stoppers would be able to move in stopped time
with epitaph diavolo sees a point in time 10 seconds in the future, and all that's gonna show is the end result
during skipped time Diavolo would be able to see things normally basically, and neither one lets him see stopped time, with epitaph he'd just see wherever dio is after he already stopped time at some point within the 10 seconds, and with time skip he'd just watch dio suddenly teleporting as do all characters that can't move in time stop
if you mean without using his future sight, then he wouldn't see anything since it's made pretty clear that only other time stoppers would be able to move in stopped time
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Yes but diavlo has time manipulation and that’s a requirement to think and act in stop time
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Diavolo doesn't literally erase time, so no
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Made in heaven can speed time up. So?
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Never mind then but hypoteciaclly if divalo could see in stop time will he be able to see into the future?
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Read what Bucko and me said above.
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Well... it's kinda hard to guess. If it's in the same moment, Diavolo will erase the seconds in future, but those seconds erased would happen after DIO's TW ends. So... I guess he'll receive the damage and then KC happens? TW doesn't stack the damage and then put all on the target when the time stop ends (at least not on this wiki, read Jotaro's note for more information), so he'd be Muda Muda'd.
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Time stop did legit stack damage against Kira tho
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He LITERALLY erases time, it's flat out stated time and time again to remove time from the world as a whole. He literally erases time, and it even effects space as well, hell it basically puts everything into a state of nonexistent too, it's why shit just phases through him in deleted time, such as Aerosmith's bullets, and why he can't actually interact with anything (as said in jojoveller, he cant actually touch anything while its deleted), it's deleted, he can't interact with what is gone.
How the hell are you going to argue "He doesn't erase time literally", when the manga and guides shove it down your throat he deletes a fraction of time from the world as a whole.
And to answer the question, he wouldn't see what Dio does in stopped time via Epitaph, it'd just look like Dio is teleporting or what not, Epitaph lets him see the future, it doesn't let him see actions that take place in a literal instant in zero time at all.
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dude what the.
You'd have to half-ass read the series to say that shit, or go in with the mind that "KC just works" meme (dead meme that shouldnt exist anymore) and misunderstand shit.. Like bruh.
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King Crimson: I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME I ERASE TIME
Nah I think he's lying
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Unfortunately, there are people who for example, has access to guides, and what not, that thinks Time erase doesnt literally erase time.
Like, actual access to guidebooks. JoJoVeller, etc. 
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king crimson turns every atom into oil for 10 seconds
this is why the bullets are slippery enough to pass through his atomic structure, and why their brains were too slippery to process him
this is why the bullets are slippery enough to pass through his atomic structure, and why their brains were too slippery to process him
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Humans can still move in it, I guess regular humans and objects just randomly gain a resistance to time stop in Part 5
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Read my above comment
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That's the funny thing, they don't (ignoring fate exists and everything that happens within a time skip is following a preordained path because that how fate be in JoJo), it's just projections of their past and future movements.
You know, like Diavolo quite literally says in the very first scene he's in and then reiterated multiple times past that point, but yeah dude "I erase time, nothing in this world exists in the timeframe I've removed" must be lying.
Things don't move, ever, it's always been projections because they technically don't exist at that moment. Think of it like holograms. The only time it wasn't, was with Requiem, and I don't think I need to explain why he's an outlier among literally everything else that ever existed.
But surely, you must be right and every character, the 30+ statements, dozen or so scenes, two guides and more must be wrong.
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Where does it say "its just projections"? His definition of erase time could just be differentThat's the funny thing, they don't (ignoring fate exists and everything that happens within a time skip is following a preordained path because that how fate be in JoJo), it's just projections of their past and future movements.
You know, like Diavolo quite literally says in the very first scene he's in and then reiterated multiple times past that point, but yeah dude "I erase time, nothing in this world exists in the timeframe I've removed" must be lying.
Things don't move, ever, it's always been projections because they technically don't exist at that moment. Think of it like holograms. The only time it wasn't, was with Requiem, and I don't think I need to explain why he's an outlier among literally everything else that ever existed.
But surely, you must be right and every character, the 30+ statements, dozen or so scenes, two guides and more must be wrong.
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In the ******* FIRST scene he's in, along with multiple guides.
Dude, have you even r e a d it? You keep saying things that are readily available and basic information available to anyone. You should know this already.
And no, his definition is "Deleted time, removing it from the world, it no longer exists". And it's not just his definition, it's his, Giorno's, Pol's, Bruno's, Mista's, word of god's, guides, bio's, and more's definition.
It also effects space fyi w̵h̵y̵ ̵d̵o̵ ̵y̵o̵u̵ ̵t̵h̵i̵n̵k̵ ̵e̵v̵e̵r̵y̵t̵h̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵c̵r̵u̵m̵b̵l̵e̵s̵ ̵a̵p̵a̵r̵t̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵v̵a̵n̵i̵s̵h̵e̵s̵ ̵w̵h̵e̵n̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵u̵s̵e̵s̵ ̵h̵i̵s̵ ̵a̵b̵i̵l̵i̵t̵y̵?̵ ̵I̵t̵ ̵d̵o̵e̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵j̵u̵s̵t̵ ̵e̵f̵f̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵t̵i̵m̵e̵
Dude, have you even r e a d it? You keep saying things that are readily available and basic information available to anyone. You should know this already.
And no, his definition is "Deleted time, removing it from the world, it no longer exists". And it's not just his definition, it's his, Giorno's, Pol's, Bruno's, Mista's, word of god's, guides, bio's, and more's definition.
It also effects space fyi w̵h̵y̵ ̵d̵o̵ ̵y̵o̵u̵ ̵t̵h̵i̵n̵k̵ ̵e̵v̵e̵r̵y̵t̵h̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵c̵r̵u̵m̵b̵l̵e̵s̵ ̵a̵p̵a̵r̵t̵ ̵a̵n̵d̵ ̵v̵a̵n̵i̵s̵h̵e̵s̵ ̵w̵h̵e̵n̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵u̵s̵e̵s̵ ̵h̵i̵s̵ ̵a̵b̵i̵l̵i̵t̵y̵?̵ ̵I̵t̵ ̵d̵o̵e̵s̵n̵'̵t̵ ̵j̵u̵s̵t̵ ̵e̵f̵f̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵t̵i̵m̵e̵
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Following
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You've been quite literally attracted more negative attention due to some questionable things you said across multiple threads at this point.
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Scans?
Those erase time statement could just mean jojo's definition of it is different
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Why is this relevant?
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Elaborate the difference.
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It just means you have a narrow P.O.V about certain topics such as this one.
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I'll make this easy for you.
"During which only it can act"
"no humans or life in the world will experience it"
"In this period, it sees the actions of others as a forecast-esque image".
Right there, in the bio alone, written from an omniscient, unbiased, narrator not sullied by any character's perspective, it flatout says they're just images, when he sees people and shit moving? They're forecasts (Which is why he constantly says "I've forecasted your actions/movements" when in time skip), they're merely images, projections, of what they would have done. This is stated multiple times, but hey, here's an easy to read digestible explanation of his ability the manga flat out gives you.
That's the only scan you're getting, I shouldn't have to spoonfeed you constantly.
And no, the definition is LITERALLY erases times. It even goes as far to specify when it says "skip" time, it actually means it erases it.
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How does "image" mean "projection"? Real things happening are still "images"
And it can only act because other things are just locked into a future that King Crimson saw
Yeah but its been contradicted
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He could skip it, as time stop, while it takes place in frozen time, still takes place in time, aka it happens within an instant of the dozen odd seconds he deletes.
But, he still wouldn't be able to see shit. So yeah, you right.
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Actually ignoring you, I don't have time to whip out like a dozen scans and guides to explain to you the most basic shit because you somehow don't understand a straightforward sentence.
Wow, something that's literally not true, who could've guessed.
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Tbh, I’m fairly sure king is just trolling
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Literally semantics bruh. "how does image mean projection" becaue what is happening is BASICALLY a projection of the actions that dont exist anymore in the erased time of the universe. If you wanna go by definitions that badly, then sure.
Oxford:
"forecast
/ˈfɔːkɑːst/
verb
- predict or estimate (a future event or trend).
"rain is forecast for Scotland"
/ɛsk/
suffix
- (forming adjectives) in the style of; resembling.
"carnivalesque"
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"Definition of image
(Entry 1 of 2)1a: a visual representation of something: such as
(1): a likeness of an object produced on a photographic material
(2): a picture produced on an electronic display (such as a television or computer screen)
b: the optical counterpart of an object produced by an optical device (such as a lens or mirror) or an electronic device"
(The fact that something like this needs to be explained is ridiculous.
Forecast = Future, esque = resembling. Image = a visual representation of somerhing. Piecing this together gets you to, "something resembling future images with a visual representation of it" Guess what they refer to? The actions of others that dont even, exist. Thats right, they d o n t. Very clearly so. Unless you think Time erase is 2.0 which is just wrong, given, he NEVER ever hits and barrages people in stopped time, whatsoever. Doesnt even ever happen in Part 5, at all. Even more so when this is explicitly explained as to why in the manga, with guidebooks flat out saying so too. I'll whip out the manga though.
Says he can forecast (wow, who knew he has precognition?)
"Time shall be erased from everyone but myself!" Yeah. Thats WHY only HE can act in the erased time of the world. Also... "I see his stand's actions!"
surprise surprise.
